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Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
Date 2015-11-08 16:53 -0700
Message-ID <D2652EA3.6328A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <pan.2015.11.07.21.35.57@localhost.localdomain> <n1nngr$nta$1@dont-email.me> <pan.2015.11.08.17.26.05@localhost.localdomain> <n1o1k7$a2$3@dont-email.me> <pan.2015.11.08.22.01.38@localhost.localdomain>

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On 11/8/15, 3:00 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.08.22.01.38@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:45:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Hobbyware puts MS to shame.
>> 
>> That must be why people steer themselves away from hobbyware as though
>> it was the Black Plague.
> 
> The average MS Windows user *cannot* use Linux.
> 
> I don't mean "will not" but "can not."  The average Microsoft user
> is literally incapable of utilizing Linux and that's the ONLY reason
> for Linux rejection.

If the desktop Linux ecosystem improved to the point where it could be used
easily and served people as well as Windows does it would gain MANY users.

> Aside from garbage and junk like Ubuntu or Mint, Linux requires
> a certain technical awareness and savvy that the average MS Windows
> user could NEVER muster.
> 
> Never!
> 
> That's the ONLY REASON people will steer themselves away,
> 
> Lot's of people can't operate a stick shift, and so they cannot
> ever operate a high-end sports car.  They are forever excluded
> from that club.
> 
> It's the same story with Linux.
> 
> Do not let the collective opinion of the ignorant mob influence
> your judgment of the finest OS that ever was: GNU/Linux.

Do you have examples of tasks which Linux handles better than the
competition? There was a discussion in COLA about that some time ago and the
Linux users had a hard time coming up with any examples. Here are some
examples from the competition where Linux was never shown to be able to
handle things well... and there are many more:

* From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, whatever) save
it and email a PDF version where you add notes to it. Now I know this can be
done on Linux; save, open, edit, email. Just curious to see how you people
would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A couple
ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.

* Make a video, as Owl and I have been, but with cursor replacement /
resizing (post production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
<https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked these
because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before coming up with
the "challenge".

* Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the HTML
validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to the archive
page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, of course):
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.




-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 14:41 +0000
  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-07 09:59 -0500
  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0500
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:33 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 13:35 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:07 +0000
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 14:17 -0500
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:32 +0000
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:33 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:18 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 22:21 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:31 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:36 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 23:17 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:58 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:28 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:20 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:36 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:58 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:05 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:33 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 10:11 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:31 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:33 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:51 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:56 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:18 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:19 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:41 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:54 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:35 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:42 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:53 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:48 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:31 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 19:21 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:34 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:02 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:50 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:40 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:47 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:32 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:12 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:39 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:41 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:45 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:15 +0000
                les trois m-tEErs. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0800
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:27 -0700
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:48 -0700
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:22 +0000
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:00 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:12 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 02:02 +0000
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:27 -0700
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:35 +0000
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:29 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:52 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:31 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:04 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:30 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 09:53 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-08 16:03 +0100
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 10:07 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 15:14 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:30 -0600
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:34 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 08:17 -0600
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 10:22 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:25 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:45 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:08 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:16 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:43 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:49 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:50 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:35 -0500
                My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:15 -0800
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 22:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:57 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:06 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 16:53 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:56 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:37 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:27 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:59 -0700
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 14:08 -0500
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-07 14:50 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 16:45 -0500
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 15:49 +0000
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    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:44 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:12 -0600
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:35 +0000
  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-07 22:58 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:37 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 14:37 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 08:34 -0800
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 08:44 -0600
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:32 +0000
  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-10 14:12 -0800

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