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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. |
| Date | 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2642CE4.63180%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 11/7/15, 3:18 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.07.22.16.30@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 16:56:24 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
>
>>
>> The industry I work in uses Photoshop almost exclusively.
>>
>
> Photoshop is the industry standard because no one in the industry
> knows about any other program. LOL!
It also has, even with its quirks, features no other program has. From some
older posts of mine:
From a recent posts of mine:
-----
Same is true of Photoshop. GIMP is just far, far behind. Does not
mean, though, that it is not powerful and might not work for you. It
might. But for me there are just too many things which GIMP is
missing. Multiple levels of layer sets, multiple types of masks and
the ability to add multiple masks to any given part of the image.
Add to that Smart Layers / Objects... adjustment layers... just all
sorts of things which offer amazing capabilities. It also has a much
better sharpen tool, 3D tools, ability to copy CSS styling
information you have set in it (and other tools to allow it to work
with Dreamweaver and other web development tools), vector layer
features, and on and on and on.
It really is a powerhouse image editing program - there is nothing
else like it.
-----
I really have a lot more... for example, when using it on OS X why
does it not let me use the OS X color picker? For that matter, why
does it not even use the OS X save and open dialogs and printing is
even worse: when I click to print it opens a separate program in the
background which I have to click on (and, of course, it looks
nothing like the standard OS X print dialog).
This means when I open and save documents I do not have access to
the items have placed on my sidebar. This means with color I do not
have access to my swatches from other programs nor to any of the
default color selection options I have in almost every other program
not any of the add-ons I have added to the color selector. This
means I do not have access to my printer defaults. Heck, for most of
the hotkeys it uses the OS X standard of Command+whatever but for
printing it uses Control+P. When I select to "Hide" it (which shows
the correct hot key but it does not work), it often hides and then
pops back into view, though behind other programs (this is just
*wrong* and absurd... I have never seen any other program act so
oddly on OS X). I can go on and on - no system services... no access
to the Media Browser... on and on.
It really is quite a mess. Photoshop is not perfect - though Adobe
has worked hard over the last few versions to improve it. For
example, some of its traditional hot keys are the same as ones Apple
uses (such as Command+H to hide the program... also used for years
by Photoshop to hide grids and slices and the like). Well, people
have been using it for years... what do you do? The first time you
hit Command+H the program asks which you want it to do... and you
can change it any time you want. Similarly, you can use the Adobe
color selectors *or* the Apple one... or the Adobe file selectors
*or* the Apple ones. Same idea on Windows. Neither Photoshop nor
GIMP uses the newish forms of file revisions that OS X added a few
years ago - though rumor has it they are working on it for the
Creative Cloud suite. They have added built in Spotlight features
into the Mac version.
-----
Since then GIMP has added multiple levels of layer sets, but I do not think
it has fixed the other issues.
> Also, no one in the industry knows anything about digital imaging anyway,
> because with Photoshop, one doesn't have to. In fact, most people
> who use Photoshop can't even differentiate a bit from a byte,
> let alone understand the physics and technology of color profiles.
>
>
>>
>> How's gimp these days?
>>
>
> The GIMP is only one of many image processing applications available
> on Linux. Most users, however, would rather write their own applications
> using either libraries or processing pipelines because THEY KNOW EXACTLY
> WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
>
> The Photoshop user could only say: "Duh?"
>
--
* OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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