Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.maint.python > #11021

Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok?

Path csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod
From Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok?
Date Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:50:02 +0200
Message-ID <wJtd8-1VM-13@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <wJihH-412-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <wJrbj-LD-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <wJt3r-1Sk-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
X-Mailbox-Line From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Oct 16 08:42:48 2018
Old-Return-Path <steffen_moeller@gmx.de>
X-Amavis-Spam-Status No, score=-7.699 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:63.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/63.0
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding 7bit
Content-Language en-US
X-Provags-ID V03:K1:fln6ozxe3Qw4Ub4iL6jV6rB6qx9lJwzpjjmpJzu7mgSLCY+M/hd l7cny0YQtAB2sLRgh+Z5iOFgiWQHgKbPNvn3cRLPogWgtzE8f5PHy8Oh7MXS5y72Psb5wdh 07YFVWmzdB1CQMhx5G+a3EzgmYSCsAXvc7gbfHS04Su8ievuqm+3btCkRvzv1mQ0atfFP56 FYMaJkcpuOi6Vx3VocdRQ==
X-Ui-Out-Filterresults notjunk:1;V01:K0:O6ufOeg9omA=:gjEZaPOvK4J8MrITvEpxEQ 3Ldly7N1QtIwTq7jdkQdEyqiC8NPrG6mwxkJXd8kY+YUCGxgVYP/kfzjW7VYG8Up9yjcJIK98 oSlrlGNY91G1OhyY4sLvlrutiip465pIHgVowDazdN4F2G0Sb+rkU0oIFNB4GNCR4XhDZxiRt m2X52QAUQw3raCVITgBIZYyoq+U7QMaas/Su/8mg0Q3RtvGH/8IAiW5v49xNbAKHZAz4JhjIh iXJfpYmv7zN+MN6odVEcRxQIL3Z9V5ZIBqy/7PbXAXp6XJC1PrCT+/0ZaXTrPV98s7eDiv4ai tEX6eg5QDCWgBqDFF5dRleP0egyKu69a73Mo6NUtlZX/joO8o1QuEvg8kK8enTdVALwmQFCxA FVbNCFHby0rVSxofsGiVAMGx++LmNhOZJFA5SFX7pbARXxRhcQ0SoR4K3A2jcrTXCmK32qEFl EAyn5mOBGDBieqn9MpzhHaT62Sgxu4TXMdw2ly9YUhO+PRf/VvEeWpSmVTEjpzlTN+4UclKRp oKa3dedzHZpddqfO47UWY4pniqttHwwv8hQR8y6NY3EfjJwrzE7+qKjQHvsGJ8Y3kqeOc58sm VQT1GmSSFBUy3gcm7d/379FcgOWPKYl8yiqccYXnsz956Q8euHPgKM51om5eaS21sv7uIhVAF ioQ6Wo6wZX8rOMC5Z+mw6v9r8Cpqd4pOZJp815er/8pyTBAx/HMoPMKmAgeL1Q0EZm6cQ2VaB ZnAIyeMANwZcaFETlWhSO4vWNnUfBQht3l3En28fr634MqbqqIf0e+LXXOektpGr/BORNFdYU 6YG+FL2LjR21I4G07/cxESxbAXLCzuPnfft+k/vaYBHzU8Ks1c=
X-Mailing-List <debian-python@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/16453
List-ID <debian-python.lists.debian.org>
List-URL <https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/>
List-Archive https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/a011107a-5302-1897-9165-7f11e7a82bc9@gmx.de
Approved robomod@news.nic.it
Lines 24
Organization linux.* mail to news gateway
Sender robomod@news.nic.it
X-Original-Date Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:42:31 +0200
X-Original-Message-ID <a011107a-5302-1897-9165-7f11e7a82bc9@gmx.de>
X-Original-References <47afc535-29be-9a2f-291f-37d790a618ad@uni-rostock.de> <dc3af4878c155095129c0625cd260ea82758da20.camel@gmail.com> <b13d753b-8223-f29b-c7cf-bf6854fa86f8@uni-rostock.de>
Xref csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11021

Show key headers only | View raw

>> Let me ask you this: where is the rush to package this machine learning
>> library? Could it wait after the Buster release cycle, where we might
>> be in a more comfortable position to upgrade matplotlib?
> The short answer is yes. The almost as short one is "Conda has it 
> already, use that". The slightly longer answer is that I don't think 
> that this is the right thing for Debian to do. We are then shipping an 
> old version of matplotlib, i.e. oldstable, with a new release of our 
> distribution. I do also think that that long-term support version 2 of 
> matplotlib should remain in our distribution. So we would need to find 
> a way to support two versions for the same distribution.

Kind of answering myself - I do not see a rush, either. I was just 
positively surprised about Orange and would like many users to share 
that experience with Buster - not two years later.

How deep is the Python Policy wrt package naming set in stone? Wrt to 
the renaming that Andreas suggested - I would be prepared to work 
through renames of matlibtools to matlibtools2 in all those source trees 
that are incompatible with version 3.

Cheers,

Steffen

Back to linux.debian.maint.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de> - 2018-10-15 23:10 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 08:40 +0200
    Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-10-16 08:50 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:00 +0200
        Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-10-16 09:10 +0200
          Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:20 +0200
            Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 10:00 +0200
              Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:30 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Arto Jantunen <viiru@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 11:00 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 11:20 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Arto Jantunen <viiru@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 11:30 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2018-10-16 12:10 +0200
    Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de> - 2018-10-16 10:40 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
        Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 11:10 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 14:40 +0200

csiph-web