Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: =?UTF-8?Q?Steffen_M=c3=b6ller?= Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Oct 16 08:42:48 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.699 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:63.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/63.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fln6ozxe3Qw4Ub4iL6jV6rB6qx9lJwzpjjmpJzu7mgSLCY+M/hd l7cny0YQtAB2sLRgh+Z5iOFgiWQHgKbPNvn3cRLPogWgtzE8f5PHy8Oh7MXS5y72Psb5wdh 07YFVWmzdB1CQMhx5G+a3EzgmYSCsAXvc7gbfHS04Su8ievuqm+3btCkRvzv1mQ0atfFP56 FYMaJkcpuOi6Vx3VocdRQ== X-Ui-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:O6ufOeg9omA=:gjEZaPOvK4J8MrITvEpxEQ 3Ldly7N1QtIwTq7jdkQdEyqiC8NPrG6mwxkJXd8kY+YUCGxgVYP/kfzjW7VYG8Up9yjcJIK98 oSlrlGNY91G1OhyY4sLvlrutiip465pIHgVowDazdN4F2G0Sb+rkU0oIFNB4GNCR4XhDZxiRt m2X52QAUQw3raCVITgBIZYyoq+U7QMaas/Su/8mg0Q3RtvGH/8IAiW5v49xNbAKHZAz4JhjIh iXJfpYmv7zN+MN6odVEcRxQIL3Z9V5ZIBqy/7PbXAXp6XJC1PrCT+/0ZaXTrPV98s7eDiv4ai tEX6eg5QDCWgBqDFF5dRleP0egyKu69a73Mo6NUtlZX/joO8o1QuEvg8kK8enTdVALwmQFCxA FVbNCFHby0rVSxofsGiVAMGx++LmNhOZJFA5SFX7pbARXxRhcQ0SoR4K3A2jcrTXCmK32qEFl EAyn5mOBGDBieqn9MpzhHaT62Sgxu4TXMdw2ly9YUhO+PRf/VvEeWpSmVTEjpzlTN+4UclKRp oKa3dedzHZpddqfO47UWY4pniqttHwwv8hQR8y6NY3EfjJwrzE7+qKjQHvsGJ8Y3kqeOc58sm VQT1GmSSFBUy3gcm7d/379FcgOWPKYl8yiqccYXnsz956Q8euHPgKM51om5eaS21sv7uIhVAF ioQ6Wo6wZX8rOMC5Z+mw6v9r8Cpqd4pOZJp815er/8pyTBAx/HMoPMKmAgeL1Q0EZm6cQ2VaB ZnAIyeMANwZcaFETlWhSO4vWNnUfBQht3l3En28fr634MqbqqIf0e+LXXOektpGr/BORNFdYU 6YG+FL2LjR21I4G07/cxESxbAXLCzuPnfft+k/vaYBHzU8Ks1c= X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16453 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/a011107a-5302-1897-9165-7f11e7a82bc9@gmx.de Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 24 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:42:31 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <47afc535-29be-9a2f-291f-37d790a618ad@uni-rostock.de> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11021 >> Let me ask you this: where is the rush to package this machine learning >> library? Could it wait after the Buster release cycle, where we might >> be in a more comfortable position to upgrade matplotlib? > The short answer is yes. The almost as short one is "Conda has it > already, use that". The slightly longer answer is that I don't think > that this is the right thing for Debian to do. We are then shipping an > old version of matplotlib, i.e. oldstable, with a new release of our > distribution. I do also think that that long-term support version 2 of > matplotlib should remain in our distribution. So we would need to find > a way to support two versions for the same distribution. Kind of answering myself - I do not see a rush, either. I was just positively surprised about Orange and would like many users to share that experience with Buster - not two years later. How deep is the Python Policy wrt package naming set in stone? Wrt to the renaming that Andreas suggested - I would be prepared to work through renames of matlibtools to matlibtools2 in all those source trees that are incompatible with version 3. Cheers, Steffen