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Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok?

From	Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.maint.python
Subject	Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok?
Date	2018-10-16 10:40 +0200
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Hi Ghis,

On 16.10.18 08:30, ghisvail@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 22:44 +0200, Steffen Möller wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am keeping me busy packaging the Orange machine learning library
>> that
>> seems nice (https://orange.biolab.si/#Orange-Features). Now, the
>> test
>> routines demand a matplotlib.pyplot module that is not in version 2
>> that
>> we feature. Version 3 is the current stable release.
> Ack. Thank you for explaining the context.
>
>> Now, I am tempted to create a package matplotlib3 instead of forcing
>> everyone to update from this long term release (see
>> https://matplotlib.org/).
>>
>> Any opinions from your sides?
> How is that going to work without creating package conflicts?
>
> I suppose  the main module is still named "matplotlib" not
> "matplotlib3" in version 3 onwards? So using python3-matplotlib3 would
> be a breach of policy.
Yes. We would need to freely interpret that policy in analogy to Debian 
libraries e.g. for C/C++ or Java.
> Let me ask you this: where is the rush to package this machine learning
> library? Could it wait after the Buster release cycle, where we might
> be in a more comfortable position to upgrade matplotlib?

The short answer is yes. The almost as short one is "Conda has it 
already, use that". The slightly longer answer is that I don't think 
that this is the right thing for Debian to do. We are then shipping an 
old version of matplotlib, i.e. oldstable, with a new release of our 
distribution. I do also think that that long-term support version 2 of 
matplotlib should remain in our distribution. So we would need to find a 
way to support two versions for the same distribution.

Cheers,

Steffen

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Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de> - 2018-10-15 23:10 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 08:40 +0200
    Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-10-16 08:50 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:00 +0200
        Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-10-16 09:10 +0200
          Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:20 +0200
            Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 10:00 +0200
              Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:30 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Arto Jantunen <viiru@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 11:00 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 11:20 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Arto Jantunen <viiru@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 11:30 +0200
                Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2018-10-16 12:10 +0200
    Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen.moeller@uni-rostock.de> - 2018-10-16 10:40 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
      Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2018-10-16 10:50 +0200
        Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? ghisvail@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 11:10 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2018-10-16 14:40 +0200

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