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Re: pycharm package in debian

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From Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: pycharm package in debian
Date Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:10:01 +0200
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On 01/10/17 20:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
>> Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
>> the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
>> the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of which have been good at
>> keeping up with updates.
> 
> I definitively prefer a Debian package in main, even if it is "lagging
> behind" as you said. For such a thing as an IDE, I expect it to be
> mature enough so that the older version is enough for the everyday use.
> And I would feel safer than using any random snap package. Who knows
> what security issue is in there and what security policy and procedure
> (if any) is in place.

You guessed it there are none. Confinement is disabled for the pycharm 
snap, so it behaves like any other application installed via a deb package.

>> Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG perspective.
>> I am just questioning whether users of this particular piece of software
>> would particularly care.
> 
> I at least would care. And would very much welcome anyone doing the work
> of packaging and maintaining this kind of software.

Don't get me wrong, I would welcome such effort too. I just wanted to 
emphasize the implication and level of commitment that such effort would 
require. We have been there with eclipse and atom, the former is (still) 
lagging quite badly, and the latter was stopped at the initial packaging 
stage.

Ghis

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      Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:30 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 09:40 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:50 +0200
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              Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 11:10 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 11:50 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 21:40 +0200
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