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Re: pycharm package in debian

From Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: pycharm package in debian
Date 2017-10-02 10:40 +0200
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On 10/01/2017 11:50 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 01.10.2017 21:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
>>> Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring
>>> the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like
>>> the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of which have been good at
>>> keeping up with updates.
>>
>> I definitively prefer a Debian package in main, even if it is "lagging
>> behind" as you said. For such a thing as an IDE, I expect it to be
>> mature enough so that the older version is enough for the everyday use.
>> And I would feel safer than using any random snap package. Who knows
>> what security issue is in there and what security policy and procedure
>> (if any) is in place.
> 
> who says that a "lagging behind" package doesn't have any security issues? If
> the package is lagging behind, how do you know that security updates aren't
> lagging behind either...

As this is Debian, I do expect that at least, I can read the security
tracker to see the current status. For a snap package, I wouldn't know
how to audit it.

> Do you want point users to the five year lagging behind eclipse package in Debian?

Why 5 years? We do release stable approx every 2.5 years...

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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pycharm package in debian kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 14:30 +0200
  Re: pycharm package in debian Yaroslav Halchenko <yoh@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-30 15:40 +0200
  Re: pycharm package in debian Julien Puydt <julien.puydt@laposte.net> - 2017-09-30 16:40 +0200
    Re: pycharm package in debian Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 03:40 +0200
      Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:30 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 09:40 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:50 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 10:50 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 11:10 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 11:50 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 21:40 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 22:10 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:00 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 10:40 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 10:50 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-10-04 23:20 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 23:50 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-10-05 01:10 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 17:00 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 18:20 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 18:40 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:10 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:10 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 20:20 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 23:20 +0200
        snap in debian Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 22:50 +0200
          Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-04 22:40 +0200
            Re: snap in debian Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 23:00 +0200
              Re: snap in debian Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 23:10 +0200
              Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-04 23:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 01:50 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 02:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 03:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-10-15 04:30 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 02:30 +0200

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