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Re: pycharm package in debian

From Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: pycharm package in debian
Date 2017-10-01 11:10 +0200
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Le 1 oct. 2017 09:49, "Ben Finney" <bignose@debian.org> a écrit :

Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> writes:

> Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG
> perspective. I am just questioning whether users of this particular
> piece of software would particularly care.

The same could be asked of many user-facing packages in Debian. Your
question, though, makes an incorrect assumption: that “users of this
particular piece of software” is a group whose membership is unaffected
by having the package in Debian.

On the contrary. Take me as a counter-example. I am not a user of this
particular piece of software, because I have little interest in judging
for myself the hundreds of user-facing applications on my system.

If it were in Debian I can then take all the assurance that brings about
freedom and maintenance, and I may indeed consider using this particular
piece of software where otherwise I would not.

So, one important reason to package a work in Debian is to *increase*
the set of people who can easily install and use it.


All 3 means of installation (Jetbrain's app, snap and potentially apt) are
one-liners for the end-user. So, ease-of-use is hardly a compelling
argument.

And I don't question your initial assessment about other applications in
the archive. Hence myself mentioning eclipse earlier, as a similar package
which used to be actively maintained until the effort died out.

I am just wondering whether an effort to package pycharm would not reach
the same outcome, assuming it passes the initial import phase. The Atom IDE
for instance never did.

Ghis

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  Re: pycharm package in debian Yaroslav Halchenko <yoh@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-30 15:40 +0200
  Re: pycharm package in debian Julien Puydt <julien.puydt@laposte.net> - 2017-09-30 16:40 +0200
    Re: pycharm package in debian Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 03:40 +0200
      Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:30 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 09:40 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 09:50 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 10:50 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 11:10 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 11:50 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 21:40 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 22:10 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:00 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 10:40 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 10:50 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-10-04 23:20 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 23:50 +0200
                Re: pycharm package in debian Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-10-05 01:10 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 17:00 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 18:20 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 18:40 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:10 +0200
              Re: pycharm package in debian Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 00:10 +0200
          Re: pycharm package in debian Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 20:20 +0200
            Re: pycharm package in debian "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2017-10-01 23:20 +0200
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              Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-04 23:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 01:50 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 02:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@canonical.com> - 2017-10-09 03:20 +0200
                Re: snap in debian Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-10-15 04:30 +0200
        Re: pycharm package in debian kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 02:30 +0200

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