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From Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
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Subject Re: Programming
Date Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:54:46 +0100
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On 18/07/16 18:28, BartC wrote:
> On 18/07/2016 17:01, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 18/07/16 16:44, BartC wrote:
>
>>>  From the Wikipedia entry on "Internet Information Services":
>>>
>>> "...It has been an integral part of the Windows NT family since Windows
>>> NT 4.0, though it may be absent from some editions (e.g. Windows XP Home
>>> edition), and is not active by default."
>
>> Understandable. Well, I never found it, anyway, despite being motivated
>> to look (at various points in the past). So I'd hate to have to be the
>> one to explain to a newbie how to get IIS working on their machine just
>> so that they can get some JavaScript experience.
>
> That's simple enough. Here's an on-line Javascript interpreter:
>
> http://math.chapman.edu/~jipsen/js/
>
> And here's the first program I tried (based on modifying the given
> example rather than any knowledge of Javascript):
>
> writeln("Hello, World!");

Sure, but is it really satisfactory to /require/ an Internet connection 
as part of the process of learning how to write a program? I realise 
that it might be considered by some people to be /pragmatic/, but I 
can't help thinking it lacks elegance. Surely, in this day and age, it 
ought to be possible to write a program without having to have an 
Internet connection?

Of course, the same objection can be levelled at my original suggestion: 
is it really elegant to require a Web server, even if it's running on 
the user's machine? Well, no, it isn't, which is why I went on to say 
that, having played for a bit with HTML and then made some initial 
forays into PHP, one may well have learned enough about programming that 
the transition to a language such as Java, or C, or Go (all of which can 
be used without a Web server) will be less of a shock.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Programming HQM <harisqmega@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:07 -0700
  Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-16 16:40 +0100
    Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:16 -0700
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-17 17:53 +0100
        Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-17 20:31 +0100
          Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 00:57 +0100
            Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 05:36 +0100
              Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:33 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:01 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:16 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:23 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:28 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:00 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 18:28 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:54 +0100
                Re: Programming "Ant" <not@home.today> - 2016-07-18 21:12 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 21:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 14:49 -0700
                Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:03 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 16:17 -0700
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:30 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:22 -0400
              Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
              Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 21:18 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-19 03:35 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:37 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-20 00:50 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:41 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:31 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 21:01 -0400
            Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 05:02 -0400
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:35 +0100
            Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:02 +0100
            Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 07:52 -0700
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:32 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:36 +0100
    Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 13:02 +0100
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 13:38 +0100
  Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-16 22:38 +0100
  Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:20 -0700

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