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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: Programming |
| Date | 2016-07-18 10:35 +0100 |
| Organization | Origin Sonata |
| Message-ID | <nmi7tv$vk3$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <6a8820b3-253a-479f-93ec-f2e03efe5753@googlegroups.com> <nmgd5k$mkv$1@dont-email.me> <87d1mcjc3e.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <nmh60m$ah6$1@dont-email.me> <MPG.31f6652cfa127e1798a381@news.eternal-september.org> |
On 18/07/16 10:02, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <nmh60m$ah6$1@dont-email.me>, rjh@cpax.org.uk says...
>>
>> On 17/07/16 20:31, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 17/07/16 17:16, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 5:40:21 PM UTC+2, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>>> Once you've mastered PHP, you're probably ready to tackle a "real"
>>>>>> programming language (although I'm being unfair to PHP).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Real programs for real users tend to be written in languages such as C
>>>>>> or C++. Toy programs for toy users (e.g. Windows users) tend to be
>>>>>> written in VB.NET or C#. So you kind of have to choose which way you
>>>>>> want to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations: good load of bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations: well-reasoned argument, carefully thought out and
>>>> skilfully presented to win hearts and minds.
>>>
>>> Your points got exactly the level of reasoned argument that they
>>> deserve. (I thought you were joking so I didn't say anything first time
>>> round.)
>>
>> Ouch. No, I wasn't joking.
>>
>> I answered as I did because the tone of the OP gave me the impression
>> that the OP wanted to learn programming without a lot of investment of
>> effort on his part ("tell me the easiest way"). There is no question
>> whatsoever in my mind that HTML is the easiest-to-learn mainstream
>> computer language (and note that I have carefully avoided saying
>> "programming language"). With only a modicum of knowledge you can
>> produce a reasonable product quite quickly. Then all you have to do to
>> turn that HTML into legal PHP is to rename the file. Next, you can start
>> playing with simple PHP constructs, and before you know it you're doing
>> loops and stuff. And that's quite a gentle entry into the world of
>> programming, which I would argue constitutes a reasonable answer to "the
>> easiest way".
>>
>> I question your claim, sir.
>
> One of the dumb ways to blow a job interview is to go off about things
> like "Toy programs for toy users (e.g. Windows users) tend to be
> written in VB.NET or C#".
Oh, /that/? Well, it's true. And Usenet isn't a job interview. Among
other things, it's a place for going off about things. :-)
--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:02 +0100
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Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:36 +0100
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Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:20 -0700
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