Re: Programming

From	Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.programming
Subject	Re: Programming
Date	2016-07-18 13:38 +0100
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On 18/07/16 13:02, BartC wrote:
> On 16/07/2016 16:40, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>
>> Real programs for real users tend to be written in languages such as C
>> or C++. Toy programs for toy users (e.g. Windows users) tend to be
>> written in VB.NET or C#.
>
> Most users, real or otherwise, don't know or care what language is used
> to implement their programs. And the OS is what happens to ship with
> their chosen device.

That's certainly true for most users, yes.

> I suspect that by 'real users' you have in mind 'real programmers', who
> apparently have to use a hard language such as C++ to be worthy of the
> name. Oh and to use Unix too, that goes without saying!

No, by "real users" I didn't mean "real programmers". I meant "real 
users", people who actually use their computers for tasks more 
complicated than typing a letter or browsing a Web page. Real users need 
not be programmers at all, let alone 'real' programmers. Of course there 
was a certain amount of hyperbole mixed into that reply. After all, I 
consider myself to be a 'real user', and even /I/ use Windows (when no 
rational alternative presents itself).

> Obviously Windows isn't a toy OS with toy users, as otherwise MS
> wouldn't be a company with tens of billions of dollars revenue. But I
> think you knew that.

It is certainly possible to use Windows to get real work done, if that's 
what you mean.

> Meanwhile the OP probably has some Apple or Android OS in mind, and
> cares nothing for neither Windows nor Linux!

Android is based on the Linux kernel, and iOS is a grand-child of Unix 
(being based on OS X, which is based on Unix).

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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Programming HQM <harisqmega@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:07 -0700
  Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-16 16:40 +0100
    Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:16 -0700
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-17 17:53 +0100
        Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-17 20:31 +0100
          Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 00:57 +0100
            Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 05:36 +0100
              Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:33 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:01 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:16 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:23 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:28 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:00 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 18:28 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:54 +0100
                Re: Programming "Ant" <not@home.today> - 2016-07-18 21:12 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 21:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 14:49 -0700
                Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:03 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 16:17 -0700
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:30 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:22 -0400
              Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
              Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 21:18 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-19 03:35 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:37 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-20 00:50 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:41 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:31 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 21:01 -0400
            Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 05:02 -0400
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:35 +0100
            Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:02 +0100
            Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 07:52 -0700
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:32 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:36 +0100
    Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 13:02 +0100
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 13:38 +0100
  Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-16 22:38 +0100
  Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:20 -0700

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