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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: Programming |
| Date | 2016-07-18 00:57 +0100 |
| Organization | Origin Sonata |
| Message-ID | <nmh60m$ah6$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 17/07/16 20:31, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>
>> On 17/07/16 17:16, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 5:40:21 PM UTC+2, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> <snip>
>>>> Once you've mastered PHP, you're probably ready to tackle a "real"
>>>> programming language (although I'm being unfair to PHP).
>>>>
>>>> Real programs for real users tend to be written in languages such as C
>>>> or C++. Toy programs for toy users (e.g. Windows users) tend to be
>>>> written in VB.NET or C#. So you kind of have to choose which way you
>>>> want to go.
>>>
>>> Congratulations: good load of bullshit.
>>
>> Congratulations: well-reasoned argument, carefully thought out and
>> skilfully presented to win hearts and minds.
>
> Your points got exactly the level of reasoned argument that they
> deserve. (I thought you were joking so I didn't say anything first time
> round.)
Ouch. No, I wasn't joking.
I answered as I did because the tone of the OP gave me the impression
that the OP wanted to learn programming without a lot of investment of
effort on his part ("tell me the easiest way"). There is no question
whatsoever in my mind that HTML is the easiest-to-learn mainstream
computer language (and note that I have carefully avoided saying
"programming language"). With only a modicum of knowledge you can
produce a reasonable product quite quickly. Then all you have to do to
turn that HTML into legal PHP is to rename the file. Next, you can start
playing with simple PHP constructs, and before you know it you're doing
loops and stuff. And that's quite a gentle entry into the world of
programming, which I would argue constitutes a reasonable answer to "the
easiest way".
I question your claim, sir.
--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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