Re: Programming

From	Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.programming
Subject	Re: Programming
Date	2016-07-18 16:33 +0100
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On 18/07/16 16:13, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 6:36:26 AM UTC+2, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 18/07/16 05:14, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>>>> turn that HTML into legal PHP is to rename the file. Next, you can start
>>>> playing with simple PHP constructs, and before you know it you're doing
>>>
>>>     Under an out-of-the-box windows, the file extension »html« will
>>>     be recognized, but I am afraid »php« won't.
>>
>> That's true (and even under LAMP, you have to do a little fiddling to
>> get it to work), but under an out-of-the-box Windows, you don't even get
>> a C compiler, FCOL! (I don't think you even get a Web server, do you?)
>
> Internet Information Services (IIS) has been a standard Windows
 > component not only on all MS server OS's since the dawn of time,
 > but also on user systems at least since Win 98

Interesting. I don't seem to be able to find it on any of my current 
Windows systems (XP, Vista, and W7). Nor could I find it on W10 (and 
yes, I did look) when a friend of mine bought a new laptop with W10 
installed. I looked in vain for IIS, for a C compiler of any 
description, for an office suite that wasn't time-limited, and indeed 
for any software even marginally more useful than "Paint" and "Notepad".

> (if not since Win 95, I am not sure).  As well as gone is
 > the time when their C/C++ compilers were a paid product:
 > not to mention, now as then, if you dislike MS compilers,

Oh, but I don't. I am quite a fan of Visual Studio, albeit not 
uncritically so. In fact, I'm quite a fan of the Windows API. I find it 
much more intuitive than the Linux equivalent. And I have said as much 
on Usenet, several times over the years. (So much for jumping to 
conclusions on insufficient data.)

 > you can just use gcc...  To be clear, I do not specifically
 > endorse Microsoft and I am even very critical with them for
 > many things (though I am with many other vendors, too, and
 > with some even more), but really, you are just talking of
 > things you patently know jack about...

Got it. Thanks for that. I really appreciate your input. I've been using 
Windows since Version 2, by the way. (Yep, the one that was released 
about 30 years ago, and was actually slightly more painful to use than 
GEM, if that's possible.)

But obviously I don't know anything about it. I realise that now. I'm 
glad you showed up to set me straight.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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Programming HQM <harisqmega@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:07 -0700
  Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-16 16:40 +0100
    Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:16 -0700
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-17 17:53 +0100
        Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-17 20:31 +0100
          Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 00:57 +0100
            Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 05:36 +0100
              Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:33 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:01 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:16 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 17:23 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 09:28 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:00 +0100
                Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 18:28 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 18:54 +0100
                Re: Programming "Ant" <not@home.today> - 2016-07-18 21:12 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 21:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 14:49 -0700
                Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:03 +0100
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 20:24 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 16:17 -0700
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:30 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:22 -0400
              Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
              Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 21:18 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-19 03:35 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:37 -0400
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-20 00:50 +0100
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:41 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:31 -0400
                Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 21:01 -0400
            Re: Programming "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 05:02 -0400
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:35 +0100
            Re: Programming Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-18 10:02 +0100
            Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 07:52 -0700
              Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:25 +0100
                Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-18 08:32 -0700
                Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 16:36 +0100
    Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-18 13:02 +0100
      Re: Programming Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-07-18 13:38 +0100
  Re: Programming BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-16 22:38 +0100
  Re: Programming Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2016-07-17 09:20 -0700

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