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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: Programming |
| Date | 2016-07-18 10:02 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87zipfiaik.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink) |
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Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
> On 17/07/16 20:31, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>>
>>> On 17/07/16 17:16, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 5:40:21 PM UTC+2, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>> Once you've mastered PHP, you're probably ready to tackle a "real"
>>>>> programming language (although I'm being unfair to PHP).
>>>>>
>>>>> Real programs for real users tend to be written in languages such as C
>>>>> or C++. Toy programs for toy users (e.g. Windows users) tend to be
>>>>> written in VB.NET or C#. So you kind of have to choose which way you
>>>>> want to go.
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations: good load of bullshit.
>>>
>>> Congratulations: well-reasoned argument, carefully thought out and
>>> skilfully presented to win hearts and minds.
>>
>> Your points got exactly the level of reasoned argument that they
>> deserve. (I thought you were joking so I didn't say anything first time
>> round.)
>
> Ouch. No, I wasn't joking.
>
> I answered as I did because the tone of the OP gave me the impression
> that the OP wanted to learn programming without a lot of investment of
> effort on his part ("tell me the easiest way"). There is no question
> whatsoever in my mind that HTML is the easiest-to-learn mainstream
> computer language (and note that I have carefully avoided saying
> "programming language"). With only a modicum of knowledge you can
> produce a reasonable product quite quickly. Then all you have to do to
> turn that HTML into legal PHP is to rename the file. Next, you can
> start playing with simple PHP constructs, and before you know it
> you're doing loops and stuff. And that's quite a gentle entry into the
> world of programming, which I would argue constitutes a reasonable
> answer to "the easiest way".
>
> I question your claim, sir.
I doubt that's the part Julio Di Egidio was talking about -- it's
certainly not what I though you were joking about.
--
Ben.
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