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| From | BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: What do they teach in school today? |
| Date | 2015-08-23 14:45 -0500 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <mrd858$gav$1@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
| References | <MPG.30401c0c36885213989ac3@news.eternal-september.org> <mrclte$bud$1@news.albasani.net> <7ccac8c0-067c-48ec-a5ad-6244832c97c5@googlegroups.com> |
On 8/23/2015 11:47 AM, fir wrote: > W dniu niedziela, 23 sierpnia 2015 16:38:42 UTC+2 użytkownik BGB napisał: >> On 8/20/2015 5:17 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>> I was talking to a recent computer science graduate today. He had never >>> seen C, never seen Fortran, had no notion of a shell script or batch >>> file, had never heard of ActiveX or .net or gcc. >>> >>> So what does somebody spend four years doing in a modern university >>> computer science program? >>> >> >> >> when I went for a CS major, it was mostly things like C# and SQL. >> one class did C++, but the teacher seemed to not really know so well how >> the language worked (he never used delete, seemed to think setting >> object pointers to NULL deleted the referenced objects, ...). >> >> the rest was mostly "general ed" classes, like English/Literature and >> Calculus and so on... >> >> >> never did get a degree, running into the problem that I actually suck >> too much at math to really make it through a CS program (issue I suspect >> is I am too much of a concrete thinker, and get lost in math that goes >> beyond what I can easily visualize). we were also in the process of a >> move (parents had already moved, and I would move to the new location as >> soon as classes ended), so there was no chance to retake the class, and >> most of the credits wouldn't transfer to another college anyways. >> >> but, yeah, does render it pointless having been one class away from a >> degree, more years of ones' life rendered completely pointless, since no >> degree = no job. >> >> and parents wanting to move every few years and send me to colleges for >> not long enough to actually get a degree in anything didn't help matters. >> >> and, as far as everyone is concerned, no degree, no job, no money, no >> house, ... = useless. >> >> >> now taking a simpler tech-school program in industrial maintenance. >> there is at least a lower change of this getting screwed up. >> >> one gets to realize that industrial people mostly use PLCs and similar, >> which are mostly controlled with pointy-clicky graphical interfaces >> (Ladder Logic and LabVIEW). have got to mess around with a lot of stuff >> (440VAC and hydraulics and pneumatics and similar) and drive around a >> forklift, so it is something... >> >> >> apparently in this area, messing around with C and microcontrollers is >> essentially black-magic in this sense... (one can code up stuff on a >> microcontroller, and use some transistors and similar, and spin up an >> improvised 3 phase motor, without needing to spend $500 on a VFD or >> similar...). >> >> nevermind if spinning up a 208V or 440V motor would require buying some >> comparably expensive IGBT or SiC MOSFET (silicon carbide) transistors. >> >> >> and, will I ever get a job or have a life or actually be worth anything >> as a person? who knows... > > youre actually pretty good afaik, > did just go and put up a video showing me driving an improvised 3-phase motor (made from a converted split-phase HVAC blower motor), running off 16v using underpowered transistors and an MSP430G2232 (a microcontroller with an epic 2kB of ROM and 256 bytes of RAM, of which I am currently using 60% of the ROM space and a little under 1/2 the RAM). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmwZb7KAvc probably not all that useful though, but I suspect this motor could probably be a fair bit more impressive with better driver electronics (higher voltage and current and a higher drive frequency, was driving it at around 20-24Hz or so...).
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What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 18:17 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-20 23:56 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 16:10 -0700
Re: What do they teach in school today? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-08-20 23:55 +0000
Re: What do they teach in school today? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-08-24 04:28 -0700
Re: What do they teach in school today? Leo <chris.w.l.macleod@sympatico.ca> - 2015-08-20 21:21 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:33 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 09:47 -0700
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:45 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 23:27 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:48 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:49 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:58 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 19:30 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 20:49 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 00:26 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 10:58 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 08:06 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 15:20 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-13 00:53 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 12:19 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 00:32 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 07:17 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:29 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:11 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 20:55 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 20:20 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 00:44 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 08:29 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-11 17:05 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2015-09-11 17:07 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-11 17:27 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 12:51 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-11 14:55 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 12:54 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 17:52 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-12 00:23 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 22:45 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 12:56 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 11:04 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 08:10 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 15:24 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-12 15:36 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 23:24 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:08 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-09-16 18:54 +0000
Re: What do they teach in school today? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 00:15 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 21:08 -0700
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 12:49 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-12 19:56 -0500
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 21:21 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2015-09-05 22:54 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 23:17 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2015-09-06 09:59 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0100
Re: What do they teach in school today? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 19:59 -0400
Re: What do they teach in school today? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-11 14:59 -0500
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