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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:44:08 +0000
James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hey, I had large bunch of typo's in that last one,
mostly due to editing.

s/simple/simply/
s/dominant/dominate/
s/on for/on/

etc

> Unfortunately, AIUI, under EU law the liberal welfare system that is 
> applied to UK nationals must also be applied to any EU citizen who
> moves to the UK. It doesn't matter which country he or she came from.
> 
> Note that EU citizens are not supported by the government of their
> own country (where they may previously have contributes by the paying
> of taxes) but by the government of the country where they reside. So
> a person who moves, say, from Romania to France, will enjoy the same 
> benefits as any other French citizen.

Our state unemployment and state welfare works that way.
I.e., homeless people on state welfare move to states
which provide more benefits.  However, states don't provide
anywhere near the amount of benefits as the federal government
which is the primary provider.  I.e., lesson, shift welfare
costs to the EU "government" proper.  Then, Germany will
probably pay a larger share.

> But each person who is able to earn a living should
> do so and should not expect state handouts they don't need.
> People should WANT to work and support themselves and their families.

I agree.

That almost sounds like a typical conservative American,
which would put you on the far radical right in the UK.  ;-)

> >> Migrants can get in to the EU (perhaps
> >> risking their lives and those of their children).  
> >
> > Ditto for Mexico here.  
> 
> Do Mexicans come in to the US by land or sea or a mixture
> of both? Do they take much of a risk in getting there?

Sometimes, they cross around the border using the sea near
Tijuana to San Diego.  This is watched by the US coast guard
and California's beach patrol, but sometimes people get through.
But, mostly, according to news and TV shows here, they cross by
land, typically close to California, or near major US or Mexican
border cities, sometimes across the Rio Grande, then they
typically travel through a desert to a highway.

They seem to like desert areas because they are deserted and
not well patrolled by authorities due to intense heat during
the day and low local populations.  Authorities generally have
to use a helicopter because being out in the heat can be deadly.
Next, they're picked up by Mexican gangs or smugglers along
highways before the police pick them up and turn them over to
the federal government to deport.  These groups are usually
cartel connected.

So, after having paid the smugglers - whom are cartel controlled -
to cross the border, they or their families in America or Mexico
end up being extorted for more funds or the smuggled people are
sold into slavery (esp. sexual for females) if they can't pay.
I'm sure some of them probably go through the same tunnels that
are used to smuggle drugs into the US.  Of course, border walls,
gates, barricades tend to be put where there are problems, but
they did build a longer, taller, regular fence a few years back
for a portion of the border. A complete, high-security border wall
apparently hasn't been built yet.

Historically, the US never checked the identity of people leaving
the US.  E.g., for decades you could exit the US and enter Tijuana
without any documentation or search whatsoever.  Mexico didn't check
people coming in either.  I.e., anybody leaving the US was either
Mexican or a tourist with money.  Recently, the US began enforcing
a new law which records biometric data and checks documentation for
people entering or leaving the US, but *only* for non-US citizens
at this point.  I.e., potential terrorists, Mexican gang or cartel
members, and illegal immigrants from Mexico.  Some days, I swear
it's just a matter of time before we have no rights whatsoever.
Everything will be outlawed or controlled.

> >> * EU policies have already brought in and are continuing to bring
> >> in an unknown number of terrorists as well as large groups who are
> >> not terrorists but who do not share the West's traditional respect
> >> for women. There have already been assaults, rapes, intimidation
> >> and killings.  
> >
> > Cultural problems resulting from immigration die down over time.  
> 
> Maybe so. But how many of the existing citizens suffer in the
> meantime? Try telling the women who have been raped in Sweden or the
> people who were shot in Paris. Try telling their loved ones that it
> will all sort itself out in time and see how comforted they will feel.
> 
> Too, if people refuse to integrate then serious problems can persist.

What is one to do?  I.e., allow in and accept some troubles or reject
and let them suffer.  Do you put them on probation?  What?

> Talking about EU madness.... To reduce the number of African migrants 
> settling in the EU the EU leaders recently proposed that they would
> send Africans back to their home countries but also *pay* those
> countries to take them back. Imagine having to pay a country to take
> its own people back!

Wow!  That sounds like a good money making con to me.  There are
plenty of corrupt governments in Africa.  There has to be a small
country you can bribe.  ;-)

Just keep sending them around in a circle and collect money.  If the
EU wises up, then the cons may need some forged paperwork which should
be easy for an African government.  It's just another bribe.

But seriously, what is Africa supposed to do with them?  Imagine
Africa attempting to integrate all American blacks.  (I'm just
being hypothetical, not racist.)  What would all those "returned"
people do in Africa?  It's not like Africa has a shortage of people.
This would create an immense strain on food and services, enhance
black-on-black tensions, etc.  A few of their cities now rival or
exceed populations of major cities in the US, EU, China, Japan, etc.

> > With our current cast of Supreme Court justices acting like
> > a bunch of Disney characters, it could happen too.  
> 
> Any Disney characters in particular?

:)

No, I was just making fun of the fact that a few of them have
recently made decisions completely out-of-line with their
past history and apparent character.


Rod Pemberton

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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 12:08 +0000
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-01-16 12:55 -0500
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    Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 17:00 +0100
      Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-04 23:32 +0200
        Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 14:05 +0100
          Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 15:17 +0100
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 10:35 +0200
              Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 16:28 +0100
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 19:14 +0200
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 20:02 +0100
          Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 10:46 +0200
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-10-07 01:16 -0400
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 12:50 +0000
              Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-12-27 23:22 +0100

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