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Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI

From Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm>
Newsgroups alt.os.development
Subject Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI
Date 2016-02-14 09:11 -0500
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 09:56:28 +0000
James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16/01/2016 08:29, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:32:45 +0000
> > James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 03/01/2016 19:55, Rod Pemberton wrote:  

> >>> Why doesn't the U.K. want to be part of the E.U.?  
> 
> ...
> 
> >> * Primarily, it is undemocratic.  
> 
> ...
> 
> >> UK law is *subject* to EU law  
> 
> The US Secretary of State has apparently intervened in the UK-EU
> debate and said he wants a strong UK to be "in a strong EU".

I didn't read or hear what he said.  So, I guess that he is saying
that he foresees the UK's future as being a state which is part
of a larger union.  It seems rational to me.  Does the UK want to be
a member of the "European Union" or not?  I.e., if your country signs
on to the European Union agreements, then your country is a member
state.  From Wikipedia, it seems there has been numerous agreements
over a long time period, which progressively move Europe towards a
common system and more integrated union.  If all your neighbors
are part of the EU, what benefit does it have to be the odd man out?

I'd guess it's really a matter of trust, commonality of people, and
acceptance of each other and their ways.  In the US, in many areas,
this is a good thing. E.g., common currency, common national defense,
and also localized regional laws for each state and incorporated city
which serve the daily lives of the people better, etc.  Everyone is
simply not going to agree on everything.  Having slightly different
laws in different areas allows people to choose different alternatives.

At worst, you may have to change what side of the road you drive on.
That's been done before.  The rest is adaptation to a different set
of rights, most of which don't affect the common man.  You can always
earn rights back later on.  The laws here shift this way and that.
Had alcohol.  Banned alcohol.  Have it again.  Have silencers.  Banned
silencers.  Have them again.  Gambling.  Ditto.  Drinking age 18,
then 21, then 18 again, 21 again, and similar issues with age of
consent, adulthood, etc, mainly because these issues are all state
controlled.  The key is to restrict rights for the common man to
the state and not the federal government or centralized government.
National or union level laws don't change very often.

> It seems completely wrong for a representative of another country
> - even a friendly one - to attempt to influence the democratic
> choice of the British people.

Ironic.  This one is a book.  I'm not even going to start.

> AIUI politicians usually stay out of political
> matters of other nations - especially those of their friends. I am
> not sure why he has thought it right to interfere in this case.

You clearly haven't been paying attention.

When has the US  *NOT*  been involved in affairs of their friends?
We usually fight wars on behalf of other countries too, at our
expense.  We place military bases and strategic weapons on their soil
for their protection.  We contribute funds for military weapons
purchases.  We contribute funds for health and welfare.  We bug all
their electronics and communications to make sure they aren't deceiving
us about their intent and loyalty, etc.  He who has the gold, makes the
rules ...  That's the problem the U.K. has with Germany, i.e., not
enough "gold".

> Unfortunately, Mr Kerry is talking about things he doesn't know
> enough about. Here, Brits are drawing an analogy to help explain it
> to him and I thought you might find it of interest given what we have
> already discussed in this thread.

Ok.

> The analogy is this: Would Mr Kerry want the US to have an open
> border with Mexico [...]

I'm not sure of his personal stance, but the Obama presidential
administration wants to keep an open border with Mexico.  Well,
it's partially closed already for safety and drug smuggling issues,
so relatively open, under government administration, I guess ...
More immigrants means more demand for social services, which means
more votes for the Democrats which hinders Republicans.  This issue
isn't about what's morally correct in the U.S.  It's about power.

> The analogy is this: Would Mr Kerry want [...]
> and for the US Supreme Court to be subject to
> another court which was outside the USA? No.
> (A thousand times No, right?)

Isn't it already subject to some international courts
via various treaties? ...  I think it is.  I.e., I'm not
sure our Supreme Court is always absolutely 100% independent
for every legal issue.  For issues inside the U.S. involving
U.S. citizens, it usually has final say.  E.g., I think on
issues involving Native Americans it doesn't, and some trade
issues it doesn't due to treaties, and certain international
copyright issues it doesn't due to treaties, and on national
security issues it doesn't.  So, it might not on certain
international tax issues either.  However, the U.S. seems
to not sign on to tax treaties and war treaties as they
are generally too restrictive or onerous.


Rod Pemberton

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  Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Bernhard Schornak <schornak@web.de> - 2015-10-02 20:43 +0200
    Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 15:23 +0100
      Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Bernhard Schornak <schornak@web.de> - 2015-10-05 17:38 +0200
  Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-10-02 17:17 -0400
    Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 16:36 +0100
      Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-10-04 21:27 -0400
        Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 15:01 +0100
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 12:08 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-01-03 14:55 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 17:58 +0000
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-01-16 03:29 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 13:44 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-01-16 12:55 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:55 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-01-18 07:39 -0500
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 11:03 +0000
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 09:14 +0100
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 09:56 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-14 09:11 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 15:58 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-15 05:55 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 15:57 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-16 05:33 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 06:16 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-24 18:03 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 06:25 +0000
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-24 20:09 -0500
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:55 +0000
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 03:56 -0800
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-02-17 04:21 -0500
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 02:53 -0800
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                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 21:10 -0700
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  Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-03 12:48 +0200
    Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 17:00 +0100
      Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-04 23:32 +0200
        Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 14:05 +0100
          Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 15:17 +0100
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 10:35 +0200
              Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 16:28 +0100
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 19:14 +0200
                Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 20:02 +0100
          Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-10-06 10:46 +0200
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-10-07 01:16 -0400
            Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 12:50 +0000
              Re: Flow of keystroke messages in a UI "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2015-12-27 23:22 +0100

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