Re: energy and mass

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: energy and mass
Date	2026-03-22 10:45 +0100
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Am Samstag000021, 21.03.2026 um 15:35 schrieb john larkin:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 09:42:20 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 12:28 schrieb john larkin:
>>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:55:41 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag000019, 19.03.2026 um 15:16 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>
>>>>>> To called Germans 'an ethnic group' is actually Nazism at it's best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that wasn't what was going on. The people who could be identified
>>>>> as "German" were looked over on a case-by-case basis to assess whether
>>>>> they'd be likely to support the German war machine, and a fairly small
>>>>> proportion of them were interned. We couldn't sequence human genome
>>>>> until about 2003, and it isn't all that helpful. I've had it done and
>>>>> while my ancestors mostly came from England one of my great-
>>>>> grandmothers, while born in England, was a member of a family who had
>>>>> come over from Strasbourg, so I'm one eighth Rhinelander (and it does
>>>>> show up clearly in my genome).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is a little other topic, which isn't discussed that often and that
>>>> was the fate of the German POWs in US-camps.
>>>
>>> They were housed, kept warm, had clean clothes and decent beds, had
>>> medical care, had books and movies, sometimes had paying jobs, had far
>>> better food than German soldiers.
>>>
>> This is a famous picture of one of the US POW-Camps in Germany:
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Remagen_enclosure.jpg/500px-Remagen_enclosure.jpg
>>
>> As I see it, there were no tents, no beds, no heating and no fresh clothes.
>>
>> Instead the German soldiers had to sit on bare ground with no shelter
>> what ever.
>>
>>
>> And that enormous camp was just one of many US-camps.
> 
> When entire divisions or entire armies surrender, it takes a while to
> sort things out.

Sure.

The USA alone captured more then four million German soldiers.

So: what was their fate?

I personally have never heard of any ships coming from the states and 
releasing large amounts of POWs to German soil (even if I was born in 
Hamburg).

The Soviets did, but only 10% and only in 1955.

That was celebrated and published in all German papers.

But what have they done with German POWs in the USA?

>>
>> And there is almost no information available about the further fate of
>> these inmates.
>>
>> About soviet camps it is known, that hardly 10% of inmates survived.
>>
>> But at least those 10% returned home in the mid 1950th.
>>
>> But what happened to the enormous number of POWs in US-camps?
> 
> Some married American women.

Well, possibly. But they needed to be released from the camps, before 
they could look for american brides.

(The less fortunate went to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Cage

or possibly to the 'GULAGS'.)

TH

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  Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 03:37 +1100
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      Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 13:05 +0100
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