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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
| Date | 2026-03-23 08:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n2c9k6Fnf0rU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Sonntag000022, 22.03.2026 um 11:38 schrieb Bill Sloman: > On 22/03/2026 8:15 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 16:36 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>> On 20/03/2026 8:55 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> Am Donnerstag000019, 19.03.2026 um 15:16 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>> >>>>>> To called Germans 'an ethnic group' is actually Nazism at it's best. >>>>> >>>>> Except that wasn't what was going on. The people who could be >>>>> identified as "German" were looked over on a case-by-case basis to >>>>> assess whether they'd be likely to support the German war machine, >>>>> and a fairly small proportion of them were interned. We couldn't >>>>> sequence human genome until about 2003, and it isn't all that >>>>> helpful. I've had it done and while my ancestors mostly came from >>>>> England one of my great- grandmothers, while born in England, was a >>>>> member of a family who had come over from Strasbourg, so I'm one >>>>> eighth Rhinelander (and it does show up clearly in my genome). >>>> >>>> >>>> There is a little other topic, which isn't discussed that often and >>>> that was the fate of the German POWs in US-camps. >>>> >>>>>> The US-citizens with roots in Germany were US-citizens only, >>>>>> because in most cases they spoke English only. >>>>> >>>>> That didn't matter. It was their sympathies that mattered. >>>> >>>> Sure, but since when did sympathies bring you in prison? >>> >>> Technically speaking, they were interned, rather than imprisoned. It >>> was a precautionary measure rather than any kind of punishment. >> >> In more civilised countries imprisonment is regarded as punishment. >> >> In less civilised countries they have also torture and work in change >> gangs. >> >>>> >>>> Would you, for instance, throw people in to camps, who have >>>> sympathies for Russia? >>> >>> If my country was fight a war with Russia, it might be a sensible >>> precaution. >> >> Well, in Nazi times it was illegal in Germany to listen to BBC and was >> punished by death. >> >> >>>>>> Their home country was also not Germany, because Germany was >>>>>> founded in 1871 and many 'Germans' in the US-population moved to >>>>>> the USA much earlier. >>>>> >>>>> That didn't matter either. >>>>> >>>>>> And German is and was spoken in other countries (other than >>>>>> Germany), too: >>>>>> Switzerland >>>>>> Austria >>>>>> Rumania >>>>>> Russia >>>>>> USA >>>>>> Lichtenstein >>>>>> Italy >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> So, the entire thing was propaganda at it's finest and conducted >>>>>> by a US-president, who came actually from a family of drug dealers >>>>>> and slave traders. >>>>> >>>>> There wasn't any propaganda content. It was just anxiety about >>>>> loyalties, and probably not confined to the president. Franklin >>>>> Roosevelt was several generations away from the drug dealers and >>>>> slave traders. He was a fifth cousin of Theodore Roosevelt, but his >>>>> wife Eleanore was Theodore's niece. >>>>> >>>> You forgot to mention his second name 'Delano'. >>> >>> Why would I have bothered? I've always known that. There were only >>> two American presidents named Roosevelt and their first names were >>> enough to distinguish them. Throwing in more looks a bit pretentious. >> >> My problem was: why have they elected a president, who stems from a >> Dutch family of drug dealers and slave traders. >> >> So, where is the logic why the very same country prosecuted US- >> citizens, because their ancestors spoke German??? >> >> (The ancestors were neither Germans nor did they come from Germany, >> because Germany didn't exist at the time, the ancestors immigrated). >> >>>> These were the drug traders. >>>> >>>> FDR was also something I would call 'Gold robber', because he stole >>>> the entire private gold. >>> >>> But he got the US out of the Great Depression. >> >> FDR was sitting in his wheel chair and didn't do anything. >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 >>> >>> He didn't actually steal it. It was a forced purchase at $20.67 per >>> troy ounce, and was actually part of a scheme to reverse the post- >>> Depression deflation of the currency and bump up the money supply. >> >> Sure, FDR didn't steal the gold. >> >> That is absolutely certain. >> >> Reason: he didn't need money and all the gold was way to heavy for his >> wheel chair. >> >> But possibly those powers who brought FDR into the oval office had use >> for gold and had arms strong enough to take it. > > Nobody with enough political clout to get FDR elected would have been > happy to see their private stocks of gold nationalised, and the way it > was organised wouldn't have made it easy for them to get private access > to any of the gold acquired. That is certainly true. But the gold of the super-wealthy wasn't confiscated, only the gold of the middle and lower classes. This could be caused by what the americans call 'capitalism'. I wouldn't call that system 'capitalism'. It's this specific US-system, which could be called 'the winner takes it all' and something, which people in other countries would call 'mob rule', while the official name is 'democracy'. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_presidential_election I don't think, that the US-president has much to decide. It is more a 'speaker' and not a 'decider'. The president cannot even decide, what he eats or where he wants to live. ... TH >
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