Re: energy and mass

From	john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: energy and mass
Date	2026-03-26 08:47 -0700
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 14:11:26 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am Mittwoch000025, 25.03.2026 um 09:36 schrieb Jeroen Belleman:
>> On 3/25/26 03:55, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:29:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/24/26 22:12, john larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 21:41:09 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/24/26 20:44, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 19:25:31 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/24/26 13:46, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 10:20:02 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann 
>>>>>>>>> <dk4xp@arcor.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 23.03.26 um 16:07 schrieb john larkin:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 08:48:12 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I didn't mean the French and British camps, but the POW- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> camps in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> USA, to which about four million german soldiers were brought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Most of the inmates of the 'Rheinwiesen'-camps.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the fate of those POWs, the US-forces shipped to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sates?
>>>>>>>>>>>> (allegedly that were roughly 4 million soldiers)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We boiled them and ate them, except in Texas they bbq'd.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... unless they were fellow law-abiding citizens of east
>>>>>>>>>> Asian descend in 1942, these were sushi-fied.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George Carlin put it better than I ever could:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FQZUSy1Vg     >
>>>>>>>>>> about halfway into the clip.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What a nasty creep. I bet he would have signed up for Nazi Youth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's called 'parody'. The US definitely comes across as creepy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He makes a living out of being, well, what he has become.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point shouldn't be about how bad people were 80 or 300 years ago.
>>>>>>> What's important is how much we have improved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's wonderful around here. People are nice and friendly and helpful
>>>>>>> and the weather is beautiful today. And the Canyon Market has a
>>>>>>> holiday corned-beef reuben today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The internet isn't much like reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Larkin
>>>>>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>>>>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask Iran, or Greenland, Denmark, or Venezuela. Trump is a creep
>>>>>> and the US is a rogue, not to be trusted. I wish it wasn't true,
>>>>>> but it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>
>>>>> Should Israel and the USA respect the soverignity of a place run by
>>>>> murderous thugs, who are building ICBMs and nukes?
>>>>
>>>> Si vis pacem, para bellum. It's the same for any country.
>>>>
>>>> The US has been building nukes and ICBMs for decennia. I wouldn't
>>>> be at all surprised to learn that the unrest in Iran was fomented
>>>> by the US. It's completely in style.
>>>
>>> The US proposed a nuke-free world in 1946. The Russians wouldn't have
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Larkin
>>> Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
>>> Lunatic Fringe Electronics
>> 
>> The US really wanted to remain the *only* nation to have
>> the bomb.
>> 
>This is a quite natural wish, but unfortunately it is also impossible.
>
>Knowledge distributes usually with an exponential function and that may 
>seem like a good stopper for the distribution of secrets.
>
>BUT: this does only slow down the distribution, but would not stop it 
>entirely.

Spies help.



>
>Even if you try very hard to protect your secrets, they will eventually 
>leak out at unexpected places.
>
>You could try to prevent such leaks, but you will always fail (on the 
>long run).
>
>It could take some time, but the more people try to crack the codes and 
>steal the secrets, the more likely it will become, that valuable secrets 
>leak through seemingly unbreakable walls.
>
>TH

John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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