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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored |
| Date | 2025-02-13 07:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m15k6pFlg2rU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <R3idnTt4H_lt8DD6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:58:30 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > Neural networks can likely do "someone in there" even better, > eventually. At the moment LLMs get most of the funding so NNs are a > bit behind the curve. New/better hardware and paradigms are needed > but WILL eventually arrive. So far there is nobody in there for CNNs. You know all the pieces and they don't magically start breathing when you put them together. It is true the whole system is a bit of a black box but it is describable. The problem I see is already starting -- turning them into weapons and letting them run autonomously. One of the 'hello world' applications is training a NN on a huge number of labeled photos of cats and dogs and the models perform very well. The metrics are sort of a truth table, with false negatives, false positives, and correct identification. It's a stochastic process so you're looking at 'good enough', maybe 97%. Say I hate dogs, set up a camera in the yard, and shoot all the dogs. A few dogs are going to slide and I'll kill a few cats. Now hand this to the military. The AI decides it sees a terrorist and a Reaper puts a Hellfire missile up his ass. You get a few school kids, but that's life. The Israelis may already be doing something like that or maybe they just randomly kill people, who knows? Give AI enhanced facial recognition to the cops -- won't that be fun. Enter 'Minority Report'.
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Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-12 22:58 -0500
Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-13 07:10 +0000
Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-13 03:50 -0500
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Re: Paris : In Rush For Profits, AI Safety Issues Are Ignored The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-14 11:46 +0000
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