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Re: climate change

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: climate change
Date 2023-01-14 09:54 +0100
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Am 13.01.2023 um 17:21 schrieb Volney:

>>>> No. What we see today does not reflect any reality, neither now nor
>>>> from any time in the past, because the pictures are not only old, but
>>>> also of different age.
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter. The constellations are determined by what you see
>>> when you go outside and look. No matter how old the light is.
>>
>>
>> ?????
>>
>> If you are not an astrologist, you wouldn't care that much about
>> constellations.
>>
>> Everybody knows, that e.g. 'The Great Bear' is not really a bear but a
>> picture in the night sky, which is made from stars of different depth
>> in space.
>
>
> Exactly. Most constellations are just random patterns caused by the
> happenstance relative positions of stars in space and time.
>
> I don't know why you and Carl make a big deal over that.


I wanted to insist on the character of the pictures in the night sky as 
'not real'.

The pictures we see do not reflect reality, because the pictures stem 
from stars, which partically do not exist anymore and which all are now 
at different positions then where we see them.

So: the night sky shows pictures from the past, which are also layered 
in time.

This is important to know, because some cosmological concepts would 
require to know the positions of stars at the same time but at different 
depth in space.

But we do not have these posistion, because we cannot wait millions of 
years for the pictures from further away.

This is a serious problem for cosmologists, which cannot be solved by 
taking the apparent positions, which we see today here on Earth.

We can't, because interactions between celestial objects would most 
likely depend on temporal coexistence of these objects.


TH

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                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 10:00 +0100
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                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:22 +0100
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                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 09:43 +0100
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                Re: climate change carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:36 -0800
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:39 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:57 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:28 -0800
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 16:20 -0500
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:10 -0800
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:57 -0500
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 11:57 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 23:25 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 15:40 -0800
                Re: climate change Edurardo De felice <eduu@eiudece.co> - 2023-01-17 13:49 +0000
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:09 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:06 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-11 11:29 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 13:00 -0500
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:44 -0800
                Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-11 11:17 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:51 -0800
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-11 14:36 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-12 08:09 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:55 -0500
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-13 08:11 +0100
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 13:12 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 04:41 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 16:11 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 08:54 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 21:52 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:21 -0500
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-14 09:54 +0100
                Re: climate change Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2023-01-14 10:07 +0100
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:03 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:24 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:26 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-15 08:11 +0100
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-10 07:18 +0100
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:06 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:22 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:27 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:43 -0600
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:54 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:57 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:03 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:10 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 17:29 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:20 -0800
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:24 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:27 -0600
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:02 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:20 -0800
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:48 -0600
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 21:29 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:28 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:29 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:26 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 06:16 -0600
          Re: climate change "kellehe...@gmail.com" <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 01:59 -0800
          Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 08:10 +0100
            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:34 -0800
              Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 08:45 +0100
            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:47 -0800
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 12:18 -0800
            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-28 12:34 -0800
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 13:06 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 15:29 -0800
            Re: climate change Santos Anselmetti <ttln@niitstsm.sa> - 2022-12-28 23:33 +0000
  Re: climate change Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-01-05 20:08 +1100
    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 16:17 -0800
      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-06 08:11 +0100
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 11:29 -0800
        Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 11:30 -0800
          Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 13:21 -0800
            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:20 -0800
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:09 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:29 -0800
  Re: climate change George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 23:45 -0800
    Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 16:06 +0000
      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-13 12:03 -0800
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:08 -0800
        Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 21:10 +0000
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800

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