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Re: climate change

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: climate change
Date	2023-01-04 10:12 +0100
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Am 04.01.2023 um 03:13 schrieb Paul Alsing:
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
>
>> I have to think about it but definitely CO2 does not trap the earth heat since the outer edge of the atm. is open which begs the question where is the heat trapped?
>
> Are you too ignorant to simply look this up for yourself? This is too easy...
>
> https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide#:~:text=Carbon%20dioxide%20is%20Earth's%20most,including%20back%20toward%20Earth's%20surface.
>
> "Carbon dioxide is Earth’s most important greenhouse gas: a gas that absorbs and radiates heat. Unlike oxygen or nitrogen (which make up most of our atmosphere), greenhouse gases absorb heat radiating from the Earth’s surface and re-release it in all directions—including back toward Earth’s surface."

This is simply wrong, because the most important green-house-gas on 
earth is water.

But 'climate-alarmists' simply do what you did and entirely ignore water.

Water can also be a gas and also emitt and absorb heat.

And water is fantastically abundant on planet Earth, which is mostly 
covered with ozeans, that are on average 4 km deep.

So: the first thing to consider in connection with climate is water.

Water is present in a lot of different forms, what make this difficult:

We have ice and snow, for instance, and also liquid water (quite a lot). 
But we have also a lot of water in the form of gas in the atmosphere.

This gas builds occasionally tiny droplets in the sky, known as 'clouds'.

These clouds are mainly, what controlls our weather, hence water is 
ultimatively the main agent in climate.

This is all obvious. But not so obvious is, whether CO2 has an impact on 
the weather at all.

TH

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Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 09:01 +0100
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