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Re: climate change

From	whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: climate change
Date	2022-12-30 10:57 -0600
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On 12/30/2022 4:14 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 30.12.2022 um 01:54 schrieb whodat:
> 
>>> The heating of the earth, caused by the sun, is produce by photons
>>> that are interacting with the air molecules or water molecules, and
>>> any object that the photons encounter. The air and water molecules
>>> that contact the sunlight (photons) are affected by the photons
>>> (energy) which results in the increases in the kinetic energy of the
>>> air and water molecules which causes heat.
> 
> This explanation is most likely wrong.

Whether it is right or wrong I did not write the above. Why did you 
attribute it to me by editing?

> One reason to think so is, that you regard photons as real lasting 
> entities like particles.

So who was the "YOU"??? And is billions of light years not "long
lasting" in your lexicon?

> But that would also 'materialise' energy, because photons are quanta of 
> the em-radiation.
> 
> But that would be a really bad idea, because energy is not a substance 
> and not quantised into photons, which also do not behave like particles.

Raging confusion displayed here...

>> Actually we know (as the human race) what sunshine looks like in space.

This I wrote and stand by. Why did you edit out what I was answering?

Here's what you took out:

"Well, we have sunshine and that is warming up the earth. But the 
'mechanics' of sunshine are not well understood, because we  only know, 
how sunshine looks like within the atmosphere." (TH,  sci.relativity at 
ttps://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/RZyx-BOEAFQ)

Ahhh. You were defending your error! You did write "we only know"
that implicates the whole human race. And you haven't figured out
that the difference in scattering is the primary difference between
light in space and light in our atmosphere.

> Our usual experience is restricted to the lower atmosphere.

Nitpicking. The CDC reports that only 144 out of 100000 die of cancer.
Does that make cancer unworthy of consideration? Do you have to
experience cancer to understand it? Or is it sufficient that those who
have experienced cancer have reported what that's like?

Your real problem appears to be that we have lots of information about
how the earth is heated but we don't understand it well enough as yet.

> A few humans have left the surface of planet Earth and actually know, 
> how sunshine looks like, if seen from a spaceship in orbit.
> 
> But that was certainly not a very common experience.

Admit your error, you are human after all, no? And lets move on.

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