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Am 01.01.2023 um 00:42 schrieb thor stoneman:

> To solve a problem you need to know the cause of the problem. Otherwise, you will never solve the problem.

This correct and very important!

The main issue with CO2, that concentrating all energies on this 
substance would cause, that all other issues were not covered.

But if CO2 is 'barking up the wrong tree', than absolutely nothing would 
happen, if we reduce CO2.

This by itself wouldn't be dangerous, only a waste of money, time and 
efforts.

But if something else does in fact cause the real trouble in the mean 
time and the real problems receive not attention, than wrong activities 
for an extended time can cause severe trouble.


I personally think, that clime-change is caused mainly by urbanisation, 
agriculture and deforestation.

These all have influence on vegetation and on how much water is 
evaporated on the land.

This evaporated water on land has a mayor impact on clouds formation 
over land and that on gorund temperatures.

If land is seeled off, deforested and turned in to agricultures, than 
much more rain will simply run down into rivers and into the oceans.

But the oceans contain already enough water, hence lost water on land 
will be lost from the water cycle. And that effect will cause less 
clouds and that hotter soil.

This is a very simple mechanism, but entirly independent of CO2.

The means to stop it would certainly include rebuilding of forests and 
protection of certain areas against conversion into land for agriculture.


TH

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