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Re: climate change

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: climate change
Date 2023-01-13 08:11 +0100
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Am 12.01.2023 um 09:55 schrieb Volney:
> On 1/12/2023 2:09 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 11.01.2023 um 19:00 schrieb Volney:
>>> On 1/11/2023 5:29 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Am 10.01.2023 um 21:45 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
>>>>> carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 6:49:04 AM UTC-8, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has the Big Dipper chanced appearances in the past?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and all constellations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I told you sometime ago that it is noways possible to measure
>>>>> parallaxes
>>>>> and proper speeds of stars with accuracies in the microarcseconds,
>>>>> hence out to 10 000 lightyears or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we can predict what the night sky will look like,
>>>>> far into the past and the future.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10000 years is quite far in the past.
>>>
>>> The light may have been emitted 10000 years ago, but what matters is
>>> what we see today when looking at the sky.
>>
>>
>> I do not agree, because the image we see is a 'message from the past'
>> and does not reflect a real thing.
>>
>> We are also not very import, here on planet Earth today, for the stars
>> we see in remote history.
>>
>> So, actually neither the image we see nor we ourselves are improtant.
>> What would matter, that are the star constellations today, which we
>> cannot see.
>>
>> But we could eventually try to reconstruct the real picture, if we
>> could figure out the distances, movements, stellar interactions and so
>> forth of the stars, put that in a huge computer and let that machine
>> reconstruct the unseen state of the universe today.
>> ...
>>
>>>> But can we also predict, how the universe looks like today?
>>>
>>> The universe or the visible constellations? No need to predict
>>> constellations today, just take a look. What's predicted is future
>>> appearance of constellations, or (without photographic evidence etc.),
>>> "predict" past appearances.
>>
>>
>> No. What we see today does not reflect any reality, neither now nor
>> from any time in the past, because the pictures are not only old, but
>> also of different age.
>
> It doesn't matter. The constellations are determined by what you see
> when you go outside and look. No matter how old the light is.


?????

If you are not an astrologist, you wouldn't care that much about 
constellations.

Everybody knows, that e.g. 'The Great Bear' is not really a bear but a 
picture in the night sky, which is made from stars of different depth in 
space.

...


TH

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                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-31 13:19 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 11:13 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-03 21:49 +0100
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 19:23 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-04 21:10 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 12:06 -0800
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 22:06 -0800
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-23 16:55 -0600
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:52 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:36 -0800
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:39 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:57 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:28 -0800
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 16:20 -0500
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:10 -0800
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:57 -0500
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 11:57 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 23:25 +0100
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 15:40 -0800
                Re: climate change Edurardo De felice <eduu@eiudece.co> - 2023-01-17 13:49 +0000
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:09 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:06 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-11 11:29 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 13:00 -0500
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:44 -0800
                Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-11 11:17 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:51 -0800
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-11 14:36 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-12 08:09 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:55 -0500
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-13 08:11 +0100
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 13:12 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 04:41 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 16:11 +0100
                Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 08:54 -0800
                Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 21:52 +0100
                Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:21 -0500
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-14 09:54 +0100
                Re: climate change Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2023-01-14 10:07 +0100
                Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:03 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:24 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:26 -0800
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-15 08:11 +0100
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-10 07:18 +0100
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:06 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:22 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:27 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:43 -0600
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:54 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 14:57 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:03 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 15:10 -0800
                Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 17:29 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:20 -0800
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:24 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:27 -0600
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:02 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 18:20 -0800
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:48 -0600
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 21:29 -0600
                Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:28 +0100
                Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:29 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:26 -0600
                Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 06:16 -0600
          Re: climate change "kellehe...@gmail.com" <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 01:59 -0800
          Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 08:10 +0100
            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:34 -0800
              Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 08:45 +0100
            Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:47 -0800
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 12:18 -0800
            Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-28 12:34 -0800
              Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 13:06 -0800
                Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 15:29 -0800
            Re: climate change Santos Anselmetti <ttln@niitstsm.sa> - 2022-12-28 23:33 +0000
  Re: climate change Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-01-05 20:08 +1100
    Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 16:17 -0800
      Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-06 08:11 +0100
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 11:29 -0800
        Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 11:30 -0800
          Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 13:21 -0800
            Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:20 -0800
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:09 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 14:29 -0800
  Re: climate change George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 23:45 -0800
    Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 16:06 +0000
      Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-13 12:03 -0800
        Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:08 -0800
        Re: climate change Otto Fiscella <tfit@tiselelc.it> - 2023-01-13 21:10 +0000
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800
          Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800

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