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Re: Whats left of Usenet?

From Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Whats left of Usenet?
Date 2016-08-07 00:35 -0300
Organization Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:

> Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-06, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-05, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-08-03, British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>> I think Usenet is exactly what it's always been: its strengths are
>>> still strengths and its warts are still warts.  But overall volume is
>>> down by probably 90% in my experience.
>>>
>>> I still wouldn't trade it for anything else, dammit.  Anyone want to
>>> help me write the next-gen replacement for it?
>> 
>> I don't think Usenet needs a replacement, it works just fine.  Any
>> attempt to 'replace' it would meet resistance from its users.

I agree.  

>> Something 'better' than Twitter or Facebook, now that would be
>> interesting.  Remove the proprietary barrier and commercial profits for
>> a start.
> 
> Other than message length limits, (ignoring ad revenue, fad of the day,
> etc. items) what significant difference is there between Usenet and
> Twitter?

Is that satire?!  What's the difference between a headline and a
newpaper article or editorial?  What's the difference between the
package advertizing and the clinical data for your risky but necessary
medication?  The jacket precis and the full text of a good novel?

Jeez, can you express subtlty, nuance or technical precision in
stichomythia?

There's that line in Snow Crash, the ability to "condense fact from
the vapor of nuance", but typically, most of us can neither do that
reliably nor convey the nuance in a one-liner.

I've never used Twitter so the length limitation is the only thing I
know about it.  That's enough to keep me away from a medium apparently
explicitly designed for Teeny-Weenie Attention Span.

> Someone can post a random thought...
> 
> Others can read that random thought, and reply (or not) as they
> choose...

Some people have more complicated random thoughts (or responses to
same) than others.  :-)  The downside, of course, is instances or
perpetrators of superfluous prolixity but that's just baggage Usenet
has to lug.

> Boiled down to the essence of "communication" there's not really that
> much real difference.



-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Whats left of Usenet? British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 20:20 +0000
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 23:51 +0300
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-03 21:31 +0000
    Re: Whats left of Usenet? British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-06 17:58 +0000
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-08-04 00:30 +0100
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-04 04:01 +0000
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-08-04 16:34 +0000
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-05 14:08 +0100
    Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-06 14:53 +0000
      Re: Whats left of Usenet? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:00 +0000
        Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:37 +0000
      Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-06 16:03 +0100
        Re: Whats left of Usenet? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:22 +0000
          Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:38 +0000
            Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-06 16:58 +0100
              Re: Whats left of Usenet? pnwdaemon@always.wet - 2016-08-06 16:55 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-06 14:03 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-06 18:00 -0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-06 21:33 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 13:38 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? jayvl <jurgen.vanlunenburg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 01:07 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-10 12:06 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-11 00:34 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-11 11:09 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-11 10:32 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-08-11 09:58 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-11 11:28 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-11 13:46 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-11 11:51 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-11 13:00 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-08-11 11:15 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-11 15:17 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-11 16:41 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:50 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:53 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 01:45 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 21:25 -0500
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 03:31 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-08-31 10:12 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 12:47 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-31 13:22 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 19:50 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-31 23:13 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-09-04 00:57 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 19:35 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-08-31 21:04 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-09-04 01:17 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 10:46 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 06:11 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-08-31 07:35 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 12:42 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-31 13:52 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-09-01 23:54 -0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-09-04 03:19 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 10:06 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 19:45 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 20:06 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 05:50 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 10:08 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-31 20:49 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-09-01 00:08 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-09-04 04:28 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-09-04 10:14 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-31 12:30 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-01 20:41 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 13:31 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-12 01:39 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-12 12:45 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-12 17:25 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-12 23:29 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-13 10:32 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-13 13:49 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-13 13:37 +0000
                Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-14 23:07 +0000
                Re: Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-15 01:39 +0000
                Re: Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-15 16:20 +0200
                Re: Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-08-16 21:10 +0000
                Re: Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-23 15:09 +0000
                Re: Scrabble words (was Re: Whats left of Usenet?) The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 09:00 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:34 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-08-30 22:51 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-08-31 12:44 +0200
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-12 12:44 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-12 20:04 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-08-12 18:59 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-12 22:47 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-12 22:49 +0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 16:46 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-22 16:52 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 17:32 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 12:38 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-22 14:35 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2016-08-22 18:44 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-08-22 17:22 -0500
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-22 19:48 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 12:42 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-22 19:05 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-23 15:16 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-23 13:26 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Paul <pmhar@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-23 18:49 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-08-23 19:24 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-24 00:04 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-24 00:56 -0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-25 21:30 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-08-23 00:54 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-22 22:15 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-22 19:03 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 16:04 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 12:34 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-24 09:31 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-10 09:58 -0400
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 23:11 -0700
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-08-11 23:07 -0500
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-07 00:59 -0300
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? British Rocket Group <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-06 18:02 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2016-08-06 19:22 +0100
              Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-06 14:05 -0400
          Re: Whats left of Usenet? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-08-06 14:00 -0400
          Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-07 00:35 -0300
            Re: Whats left of Usenet? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-08-07 14:47 +0100
              Re: Whats left of Usenet? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-08-07 17:16 -0300
              Re: Whats left of Usenet? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-08-09 13:28 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-09 12:31 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-08-09 14:05 +0100
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-08-09 13:54 +0000
                Re: Whats left of Usenet? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-08-24 14:28 +0100
      Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 20:29 +0000
    Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 19:48 +0000
  Re: Whats left of Usenet? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 19:31 +0000

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