Re: Whats left of Usenet?

From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Whats left of Usenet?
Date	2016-09-01 00:08 +0300
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Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com>:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 05:50:58 +0200, Paul Sture wrote:
>> I thought you were British. "Gotten" is most decidedly a US
>> construct.
>
>  I am British but, as far as I'm aware, the yanks don't yet have a 
> monopoly over "gotten".

Americans hardly invented "gotten". The dialectal variation on the
British Isles is vast.

> I did consider using "got" but decided, in spite of discussions over
> the use of the word "gotten", that "gotten" would scan better in this
> case.

Maybe you *were* infected by an Americanism. Funny enough, the past
participle has all but disappeared from colloquial American English. So
in America, "I've already got" is used more than "I've already gotten",
just like "I've already went/took/wrote" is used more than "I've already
gone/taken/written". Only "been", "done" and "seen" seem to resist the
evolution (to an extent: <URL: http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/see
n.html>, <URL: http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/ive-did-some-crazy-thing
s-over-the-years-on-the-soaps-ive-been-o/>).

> In this case, I exercised a personal preference for the phrase "I
> think I've gotten away with it" over the equally correct but more
> clipped "I think I got away with it". Neither is wrong. I simply
> preferred the former phrase over the latter and decided to go with my
> 'Gut Feeling'. :-)

No need to get defensive. There could be worse things than being branded
American.

Marko

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