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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english |
| Subject | Re: GNU |
| Date | 2026-03-20 07:36 +0000 |
| Organization | A little, after lunch |
| Message-ID | <10pitej$1c5df$5@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (22 earlier) <10pe8l4$3rg2l$4@dont-email.me> <1rs7s0y.c1yy7u122poftN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10pgtnu$mdso$9@dont-email.me> <ckborkld5vo6lhk7o12lnn8hk9bf445n0c@4ax.com> <1rs8isu.iljo0f1x38jehN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
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On 19/03/2026 21:32, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Was there ever anything to it, > beyond the desinformation campaigns of big oil? You really have drunk the koolaid. haven't you? Around 2004 I was involved with a firm of investment brokers. They put on a conference about 'alternative energy' and invited potential investors to attend. WE had presentations from all sorts of people with renewable energy carbon capture, Shell and BP talked about their plans and it was all nice and jolly. But I couldn't anywhere see a viable product . I asked a few q1estuons an was further disappointed,. I certainly wasn't going to invest in any of it myself. At lunch - the usual finger food and cheap wine - I was approached by to bankers, German from their accent. "Tell me, is any of this technology viable or profitable without government grants?" I reviewed all the mornings presentations and said "No. " "Ach, we go back to London then,. We have been here before. The goverment gives money and we invest, then we make profit and the government says 'you are making profit ' and takes away the subsidies and we lose" The fact is that renewables depend 100% on state funding and without it they collapse. Big oil could not care less. They make money selling oil and gas just as much with renewables as without, as the present little Gulf adventure is showing The big problem is that renewables are a crock of shit, and they have to work very hard dreaming up conspiracy theories as to why people don't want them to disguise the very real truth: That they are a crock of shit. Why else would the EU - instead of taxing carbon dioxide emissions and putting tariffs on imported goods with high carbon emissions profiles, which would have instantly reduced carbon emissions, instead implement a 'renewable obligation' which told their member countries to build out renewables. Not carbon capture. Not nuclear power. Just renewables - which at that time meant Siemens GMBH. Which poured money into disinformation That you apparently believed. -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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