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Re: Ehrenfest paradox

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Am 19.01.2024 um 17:37 schrieb Volney:

>>>>> In the formula TA' = TA + 2AB/c, what do you think the AB/c term
>>>>> means?
>>>>> Where does the 2 come from?
>>>>
>>>> I know, of course, what that equation means.
>>>>
>>>> A is a point in space and B is a point in space. The signal starts
>>>> from A in direction of B, gets reflected there and reaches A again.
>>>>
>>>> 2AB/c is incorrect, because a scalar-product of a position vector A
>>>> and a position vector B is not a distance.
>>>
>>> Why did you write such a goofball statement like that? Einstein never
>>> used the scalar products, those are distances.
>>
>> What do you mean are distances?
>
> As Einstein stated, AB is the distance from A to B and BA is the
> distance from B to A. Since he was discussing the simple one dimensional
> light beam from A to B and back, there's absolutely no reason for
> obfuscation like scalar products and position vectors.

A and B were defined as points in space.

But since when is space one dimensional?

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TH

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