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Re: Ehrenfest paradox

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Ehrenfest paradox
Date 2024-01-06 08:47 +0100
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Am 05.01.2024 um 13:33 schrieb Richard Hachel:

>> I assume a system behind this phenomenon.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure, but would guess, that a world exists, where time
>> runs backbards (from our perspective).
>>
>> This world is inhabited by intelligent beeings and our (earthly)
>> 'Elite' has managed to connect with these beings.
>>
>>
>> Now they exchange knowledge, what makes our elite superrich and also
>> the elite of this 'otherworld'.
>>
>> In exchange for knowledge about future events, the locals had to
>> immitate the behaviour of these otherworldly leaders.
>>
>> Since they have a time, which runs into the opposite direction, their
>> behaviour is totally illogic, because they constantly create bad out
>> of good.
>>
>> This behaviour is called 'satanism' and means, that the adepts have to
>> create mess out of order.
>>
>> The ortherwordly leaders want this, because our world is nice, but
>> toxic for beings from a world, where time runs backwards.
>>
>> They want this world (our Earth) to become gradually more inhabitable,
>> hence more and more satanic.
>>
>> So, satanism is actually meant good, but time-reverted.
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> We enter metaphysics.
> And so we are off topic.
> I have described quite a bit about the nature of space-time, and
> whatever anyone says, I remain one of the most rational theorists of
> physics.
> Many “pundits” as they say, say absolutely anything, and imagine
> “Minkowski spaces”, “time travel”, “spatio-temporal wormholes”.
> You have to stay serious.
> I have already given the equations.
> Furthermore, this abstract physics is ridiculous and contradictory, and
> involves hellish paradoxes.
> Suppose we go back in time to kill a dictator. But as the years go by,
> we realize that the damage would have been even worse if the
> dictatorship had not existed. So we send someone back to make sure we
> kill this dictator. But ten years later, we realize that it is not. It
> was better to kill the dictator, and someone was sent to prevent the
> dictator from being killed, and so on ad infinitum.

It is easy to overcome this problem and I have found a method to do this.

It is relatively simple and is more effective, the more people use it.

The idea is, that any future is good for you, but for the bad guys with 
reverted time only the predictable future is good.

So: make future more unpredictable!

E.g. you could decide to make almost everything you do better than required.

This would cut causality relations, because if you have no reasons to 
make things better than you have to, you have no predictable cause to do 
something useful.

Everybody will most liekly applaude and you brake absolutely no law, but 
will make timetravel harder than it already is.

Another method is even simpler:

in case you cannot decide something yourself, you can flip a coin and 
regard the result as order of God.

Or you could help people (also: animals, plants or even things) who do 
not really deserve that.

This would bring an additional element of unpredicability into the 
world, which would disallow timetravel.

Extreme cleanness is a good method, too, because it lowers entropy in 
your realm.


> This is obviously a huge causality problem.
> All these problems do not exist in my physics.

Sure, but timetravelers care about them.


TH

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