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Re: Ehrenfest paradox

From Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Ehrenfest paradox
Date 2024-01-24 09:29 +0100
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On 2024-01-24 07:10:58 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am 23.01.2024 um 11:23 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> ...
>>>> Not surprising in someone who hasn't understood yet not to set off a
>>>> defining clause with a comma in English (unlike German): "I had the role
>>>> of a professor, who had to write corrections for the homework". I wince
>>>> every time I see one of Thomas Heger's incorrect commas. I don't
>>>> complain about "ciriticised" (obviously a typo) or "striktness" (a
>>>> spelling error that any German speaker might make).
>>> 
>>> Well, I would like to see YOU writing in a second language without the
>>> assistence of a spell-checker.
>>> 
>>> (Unfortunately there are no more updates available for this version of
>>> thunderbird, which is the last one, that runs under Windows VISTA).
>>> 
>>> So, try some German and let me correct your posts in my own language.
>>> 
>>> In case of commas: well, yes, maybe you are right.
>> 
>> No maybe about it. It is plain wrong.
> 
> Well, yes, but do you really want to insist on commas?
> 
> Usually I would give foreigners a little benefit in their use of the 
> language, because it is usually difficult to learn a second language 
> and therefore rude to requirre perfect spelling from a stranger.
> 
>> 
>>> But I use mostly 'comma-logic' from German, even if that is not quite
>>> correct.
>> 
>> Not correct _at all_. English is not German.
> 
> English has actually German roots, too.

Yes. Most people know that. However, English changed almost beyond 
recognition in the 12th and 13th centuries, and is now very different 
from German.

Many years ago (1970s) my first wife worked at a language school for 
adults. Many of the clients were German and Spanish businessmen. She 
said that the Spanish had very little difficulty with the grammar, but 
almost unsurmountable difficulties with the pronunciation, whereas with 
Germans it was the opposite. They insisted that English should follow 
the same rules as German and often wanted to argue on the basis of 
logic, ignoring the fact that logic is a very poor guide to how 
languages behave.
> 
> German is more or less a very big family of languages and also includes 
> languages from the nehterlands or the Swiss, Italian, Russian and 
> Romanian Germans.
> 
> Some historians also say, that a very early form of German was spoken 
> by the Mayas.

Yes. Linguistics is also infested by crackpots. It's not just 
relativity physics and evolutionary biology in which the crackpots are 
very visible.
> ...


-- 
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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            Re: Ehrenfest paradox Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-01-23 19:11 +0100
              Re: Ehrenfest paradox Richard Hachel <pourquoi-pas@tiscali.fr> - 2024-01-23 23:25 +0000
                Re: Ehrenfest paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-01-24 08:29 +0100
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              Re: Ehrenfest paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-01-24 08:33 +0100
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        Re: Ehrenfest paradox Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-01-23 09:47 +0100
          Re: Ehrenfest paradox Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-01-23 11:21 +0100
          Re: Ehrenfest paradox Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-01-23 11:23 +0100
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              Re: Ehrenfest paradox Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-01-24 09:29 +0100
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