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gharnagel wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:34:57 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >
> > W dniu 16.10.2024 o 05:45, gharnagel pisze:
> > >
> > > As usual, Wozniak is conflating two different
> > > concepts.
> >
> > As usual, Harrie spits.
> 
> Says the congenital liar :-))
> 
> > And say nonsense about things he admits he
> > doesn't know much about.
> 
> which Wozniak knows nothing about, which is why
> he keeps conflating two different things.
> 
> > Well, it's not usual that he admits.
> 
> I don't know much, but I'm always observing.
> Wozniak's problem is his false belief that he
> knows more while only being a poor observer.
> 
> > > Humans try to model nature, and since, for
> > > example, trees grow, die and decay, there
> > > is something in nature that changes.
> >
> > Oh, there is a wide variety of things
> > that change in nature. Time, however,
> > is not any of them. There is no time
> > in nature.
> 
> Wozniak is likely to get hit by a falling
> rock; that is, one that is changing its
> position in space as a function of time
> passing.
> 
> > It's a purely virtual abstract invented
> > by humans - for the purpose of describing.
> > Describing nature and other things.
> 
> That's only ONE definition.  Wozniak is a
> poor observer because he refuses to see the
> other one.  This one:
> 
> "Time is what keeps everything from happening at
> once" -- Ray Cummings
> 
> This is the one as real as a punch in the face.
> The punch may come from a person (who is also a
> part of nature), or it may come from a falling
> rock.
> 
> > Time is almost always present in  any
> > description of anything.  That's why
> > it appears for weak minds to be something
> > real.
> 
> Wozniak has a weak mind because he can't
> understand that there are two kinds of
> "time": the real one in nature and our
> attempts to describe it (with clocks and
> coordinates).
> 
> > > Clocks and coordinates and theories are ways
> > > that we model time.  But they aren't time,
> >
> > Clocks are clocks, theories are theories.
> > Time is obviously not any of them.
> 
> Agreed.  Time is a part of nature; it's neither
> clocks nor theories.
> 
> > As for coordinates - we have created a
> > number of them, and about 20-30 of them
> > are times.
> 
> Of course, DUH!
> 
> > > just as the map is not the territory.
> 
> Just as a clock is not time.

What time do you have now?



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