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Re: What is "local time"?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What is "local time"?
Date 2024-10-16 07:53 +0200
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Am Montag000014, 14.10.2024 um 18:49 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Richard Hachel wrote:
>>
>> What is "local time" in relativity?
>>
>> 1. Is it the chronotropy of the local frame of reference?
>>
>> 2. Is it the time noted on the watch of a given observer?
>>
>> This is obviously not AT ALL the same thing, and I suspect that many
>> physicists speak without knowing what they are talking about.
>>
>> Perhaps I could be more precise here.
>>
>> What are we talking about?
>>
>> R.H.
> 
> What we have here is a failure to communicate.
> 
> 
> Einstein spoke German.
> 
> So his inglish is no too good.
> 
> I'll give you an example:
> 
> 
> Design for a blouse
> 
> Description
> Oct. 27, 1936. A. EINSTEIN 1388- 101,756
> BLOUSE Filed July 2, 1936 INVENTOR.
> ATTORNEY.
> 
> 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/USD101756S/en

This patent contains a very strang error:

quotes
"ATENT OFFICE DESIGN FOR A BLOUSE Albert Einstein, New York, N. Y. 
Application July 2, 1936, Serial No. 63,612 "

"Be it known that I, Albert Einstein, a citizen of the German Republic, 
residing in the Borough of Manhattan, county of New York, and State of 
New York, have invented a new...."

BUT:

Germany wasn't a republic in 1936 and as far as I know, Einstein wasn't 
citizen of Germany at that time.

He renounced citizenship of the German Empire in 1896 and was from 1901 
onwards citizen of Swizzerland.

Since Germany didn't allow dual citizenships in those days, he could not 
become a German again (and also remain Swiss).

He also left Germany some time before the advent of the nazis, even if 
he had been in Berlin until 1932.

Sometime is is said, that he was a citzen of Prussia.

But Germany had an undivided citizenship in those days and no 
citizenship from the states from which Germany was composed.

Germany was also not called 'German Republic' anymore in 1936, but 
'Deutsches Reich' ('German Empire').


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What is "local time"?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-14 11:28 +0000
  Re: What is "local time"? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-10-14 19:34 +0800
    Re: What is "local time"? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-10-16 07:28 +0200
  Re: What is "local time"?  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-14 09:49 -0700
    Re: What is "local time"? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-10-16 07:53 +0200
  Re: What is "local time"?  hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-15 12:52 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-31 13:15 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-16 15:51 -0700
  Re: What is "local time"? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-10-16 12:03 +0300
    Re: What is "local time"? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-16 13:07 +0000
      Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-16 07:49 -0700
        Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-18 11:03 -0700
      Re: What is "local time"? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-10-18 11:41 +0300
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