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Re: What is "local time"?

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: What is "local time"?
Date	2024-10-14 09:49 -0700
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Richard Hachel wrote:
> 
> What is "local time" in relativity?
> 
> 1. Is it the chronotropy of the local frame of reference?
> 
> 2. Is it the time noted on the watch of a given observer?
> 
> This is obviously not AT ALL the same thing, and I suspect that many
> physicists speak without knowing what they are talking about.
> 
> Perhaps I could be more precise here.
> 
> What are we talking about?
> 
> R.H.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Einstein spoke German.

So his inglish is no too good.

I'll give you an example:

Design for a blouse

Description
Oct. 27, 1936. A. EINSTEIN 1388- 101,756
BLOUSE Filed July 2, 1936 INVENTOR.
ATTORNEY.

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD101756S/en

Now, can you answer the question, "What is a "blouse"?

Most people would say a shirt for a woman or a girl.

But, Einstein's definition of a blouse is a man's or woman's shirt.

That's the German definition.

Now, if you want to know the local time in Einstein's inglish language..

it is "What time is it now?" in Einstein's inglish language he would say, "What is the Present time?"

Now Richard, tells us what is the present time?

"What watch? -Ten watch. -Such much?"  

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What is "local time"?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-14 11:28 +0000
  Re: What is "local time"? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2024-10-14 19:34 +0800
    Re: What is "local time"? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-10-16 07:28 +0200
  Re: What is "local time"?  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-14 09:49 -0700
    Re: What is "local time"? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-10-16 07:53 +0200
  Re: What is "local time"?  hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-15 12:52 +0000
    Re: What is "local time"?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-15 15:09 +0000
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          Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-16 03:45 +0000
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              Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-16 19:43 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-17 04:07 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-17 13:26 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 13:37 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-17 16:55 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 15:09 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 15:50 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 20:48 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-17 17:00 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 15:10 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-17 15:32 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-17 19:54 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-17 23:18 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-19 13:52 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-19 21:02 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-20 03:52 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-20 12:09 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-21 00:04 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-21 08:03 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-21 11:59 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-23 03:57 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-23 07:56 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-23 12:28 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-23 15:14 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-23 13:23 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-23 14:20 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-23 17:08 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-24 14:00 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-24 17:53 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-24 19:41 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-25 13:08 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-25 15:40 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-25 14:37 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-25 16:44 +0200
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-25 23:14 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-27 00:36 +0000
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                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-28 02:38 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-28 08:05 +0100
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-28 12:24 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-28 16:37 +0100
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-28 17:49 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-28 19:29 +0100
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-29 12:42 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-29 16:11 +0100
                Re: What is "local time"? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-30 13:49 +0000
                Re: What is "local time"? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-30 16:24 +0100
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                Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-16 15:51 -0700
  Re: What is "local time"? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-10-16 12:03 +0300
    Re: What is "local time"? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-16 13:07 +0000
      Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-16 07:49 -0700
        Re: What is "local time"? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-10-18 11:03 -0700
      Re: What is "local time"? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-10-18 11:41 +0300
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