Re: Office alternatives

From	MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Office alternatives
Date	2016-10-18 20:11 -0400
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On 2016/10/17 7:04 PM, Happy.Hobo wrote:
> It's hardly fair to blame Microsoft for the incompetence of their
> customer.

That's not what that was. That was a reason why not to be thrilled about 
being able to open something with the creator's formatting intact. I 
blame Microsoft for its _own_ incompetence, breaking the format to force 
upgrades, changing EVERYTHING so a sophisticated user becomes a newb and 
MCPs have to pay handsome sums to forget the old and learn the new, AND 
not sharing crucial data (see Informix Wingz).

This last, I see, has become interesting. There's no mention of MS 
wrongdoing at the Informix Wingz page in Wikipedia. So I'll just clue 
you in....

Windows (and PCs) once had weird memory access issues (look at any 
CONFIG.SYS file) and ONLY Microsoft knew how to access memory beyond a 
certain amount. I forget the size; we'd laugh at it today. Wingz had 
some spiffy features and was reviewed well and seemed to be a coming 
application. BUT it could only access as much mem as MS had documented 
(for outsiders). OTOH, MS knew how to have larger data spaces in 
applications and therefore you could make and load MUCH larger file 
sizes. (The Wiki article talks about columns vs. rows but it's only 
important if you have access to sufficient memory to use them.)

SO... Excel could do larger files. None of the other spreadsheet 
producers were given the information that would've allowed them to be 
competitive.

So a pox upon all their houses. I have no Windows. I would have, just by 
inactivity, except that they *didn't work.* My netbook with Win7 became 
unusable and Win10 broke itself without my doing _anything_ with it! I 
thought, fine, I'll just use the restore partition to re-establish a 
factory fresh working copy of Win7.

But NOOO-OOOO.... Win10 *eliminated* the Win7 restore partition, in 
their infinite stupidity and high-handedness. So because of that, I 
said, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more and I installed 
Lubuntu on BOTH PCs (even though the XP one wasn't (yet) broken).
-- 
Malcolm

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            Re: Office alternatives Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-18 16:51 -0400
              Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-18 19:28 -0400
                Re: Office alternatives Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-21 21:54 -0400
                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-21 23:59 -0400
                Re: Office alternatives Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-22 09:23 -0400
                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-24 08:21 -0400
                Re: Office alternatives "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-24 12:34 -0500
                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-26 18:01 -0400
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                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-21 09:08 -0400
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                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-22 00:03 -0400
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                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-22 00:18 -0400
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                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-24 08:41 -0400
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                Re: Office alternatives MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-26 18:21 -0400
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