Re: Batteries and mains, going solo.

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Batteries and mains, going solo.
Date	2025-09-09 02:56 +0200
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On 2025-09-09 00:41, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-09-07 16:00, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 6/09/2025 11:41 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-06 14:41, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/08/2025 11:21 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>>>> People were trapped in elevators, and could not phone for rescue.
>>>>>> Instead they shouted, and neighbours kindly went even on foot to the
>>>>>> elevator office to ask for help instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not demanding anything, just stating a proven fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>> By-the-by, I have Solar Panels and a Solar Battery on this house. If
>>>>> the Mains is available (something for the Battery Circuitry to
>>>>> reference) and the Batteries are charged, the Battery can supply power.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Batteries ARE charged but there's no Main reference, the
>>>>> Batteries do bugger all!! There's $10,000 down the tube!!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but that's a fault of your firmware and hardware. Very common
>>>> failure; many houses in Spain discovered that as well. The system just
>>>> needs to disconnect from mains and go solo. It is possible and has an
>>>> extra price.
>>>>
>>> Yeap, "It is possible and has an extra price."
>>>
>>> When my system 'died' I contacted the Suppliers/Installers to find out
>>> what went wrong and they said nothing was wrong, that's how the system
>>> was supposed to work.
>>>
>>> HOWEVER, for a mere $1400 (I think) they could sell you a box that you
>>> could connect to the battery that would allow you to draw up to 1kW from
>>> the Battery (without any Mains reference) whilst it held charge .... you
>>> know, for use in Life and Death situations.
>>
>> Only 1 KW? How big are your batteries?
>>
>> I think you can simply:
>>
>>    - Disconnect from the mains with a manual switch
> 
> In Australia it has to be an automatic switch in order to be legal.
> They don't want people leaving the switch on while the line is
> being repaired so that the workers get zapped by solar inverters
> that are powering it instead of the grid. Such systems exist, but
> I don't think they're common and they cost significantly more. It's
> easier for them to sell you a separate inverter that's not connected
> to the house wiring and therefore doesn't have to follow the
> regulations.
> 
>>    - Keep a bulb connected to outside to find out when electricity comes
>> back.
>>    - Connect your batteries to a suitable inverter, and connect the
>> output to the inner side of the big house switch.
>>
>> Anyone having a solar independent installation, not connected to the
>> mains, does that.
> 
> True, but here, and I think in many other countries, once the house
> wiring has a mains connection there are a whole lot of extra rules
> to follow.
> 
> https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/plug-in-grid-connectsolar-inverters/

Yeah, I suppose you are right.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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