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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Batteries and mains, going solo. |
| Date | 2025-09-11 10:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2reaplxhh2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (21 earlier) <A72cnep9mY1uT1z1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <3m19plx8ek.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <rvmcnXeR0ojkdFz1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <pkg9plx7um.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <FeWcnfZIe7-Av1_1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
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On 2025-09-11 03:12, c186282 wrote: > On 9/10/25 8:10 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-09-10 23:11, c186282 wrote: >>> On 9/10/25 3:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-09-10 21:35, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 9/10/25 9:49 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> REALLY?? If it has NO references, how does it know WHAT *EXACT* >>>>>> voltage and frequency to produce?? >>>>> >>>>> It's going to be either 50hz or 60hz ... any >>>>> generating system bought in your area should >>>>> default to the local frequency. A few may have >>>>> selector switches. Get it right. You can run >>>>> a lot of 60hz stuff from 50hz but it's not wise >>>>> to run 50hz stuff from 60hz - esp if motors >>>>> and transformers are involved. >>>> >>>> A lot of electronics nowdays will work, they are designed for >>>> travelling. Computers, USB chargers, etc. Read their documentation >>>> before travel. >>> >>> Don't try to run a 50hz air conditioner or fridge >>> on 60hz though. The motor windings may overheat. >> >> I won't. They don't fit in the cabin luggage allowance. >> >> Although mine are inverter type, they might work. > > Explain what you mean by "inverter" here ... do > you feed the things DC ? Do they change AC to DC > and then cleverly meter that out ? > > AC->DC ... there is going to be a rectifier in there > and those often have a 'C' or 'LC' filter to smooth > out the DC. 50/60 optimized may use different component > values. I don't have schematics, but the assumption is that they do an AC-DC conversion, and then they convert back to AC at the variable frequency wanted for the motor, ie, adjusting its speed. My AC might have a trifasic motor, or perhaps a brushless DC motor. The fridge claims to have a linear motor, which I understand is not rotating, but some kind of piston and an electromagnet moving it forward and back, at a variable frequency. I did not say that they will work with either 50 or 60 Hz, but that they might. Not going to test it! I am looking at the AC user manual, and amazingly there is no specs page. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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