Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE)
Date	2025-09-06 15:41 +0200
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On 2025-09-06 14:41, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 14/08/2025 11:21 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> <Snip>
> 
>> The fact is that with POTS the phone service was assured for days even 
>> in the case of a full power failure, and now with the replacement, be 
>> it fibre or cellular, service is not assured. For whatever reasons.
>>
>> Many people could not phone emergencies with their mobile phones. Just 
>> a fact.
> 
> WHAT?? Did ALL the mobile phones' batteries immediatly go FLAT?? Or Did 
> that Batteries in the Comms Towers go FLAT??

The later.

I don't know exactly because I have not seen a report and no longer work 
in telephony.

I asked chatgpt about reports.

Top stories

The Spanish government is preparing a plan to guarantee 
telecommunications in the event of a blackout, through a public 
consultation to strengthen the security and resilience of networks in 
the face of disasters such as power outages or extreme weather events. 
Reference is made to the blackout of 28 April 2025 and it is mentioned 
that operators such as Telefónica and Cellnex are already developing 
their own contingency plans.

<https://cincodias.elpais.com/companias/2025-09-02/el-gobierno-prepara-un-plan-para-garantizar-las-telecomunicaciones-en-caso-de-apagon.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>

The second major blackout: this article analyses the reasons for the 
almost total collapse of mobile communications after the blackout, 
explaining the lack of long-term backup energy systems and pointing out 
the need to strengthen the network with high-cost alternative solutions. 
It also proposes public-private collaboration as a mechanism to address 
this issue.

<https://elpais.com/economia/2025-05-05/el-segundo-gran-apagon-por-que-no-pude-hablar-con-el-movil.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>

Other useful sources

A technical analysis of the telecommunications failure during the 
blackout, explaining how base stations, although some had batteries or 
generators, were not prepared for such a prolonged interruption, 
resulting in network saturation and loss of coverage.
Information

<https://www.elperiodico.com/es/economia/20250429/por-que-fallaron-telefonos-gran-apagon-recuperacion-dispar-servicio-telefonico-116878878?utm_source=chatgpt.com>

Technical details of the impact on internet traffic: 60–80% drops, 
drastic reduction in download speed (up to 73%) and increase in latency 
(‘ping’) of up to 250%, according to platforms such as Cloudflare and Ookla.

<https://www.elespanol.com/invertia/observatorios/digital/20250430/caida-telecos-gran-apagon-hunde-internet-espana-trafico-cae-velocidad-descarga/1003743735570_0.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com>

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

> 
>> People were trapped in elevators, and could not phone for rescue. 
>> Instead they shouted, and neighbours kindly went even on foot to the 
>> elevator office to ask for help instead.
>>
>> I'm not demanding anything, just stating a proven fact.
>>
> By-the-by, I have Solar Panels and a Solar Battery on this house. If the 
> Mains is available (something for the Battery Circuitry to reference) 
> and the Batteries are charged, the Battery can supply power.
> 
> If the Batteries ARE charged but there's no Main reference, the 
> Batteries do bugger all!! There's $10,000 down the tube!!

Yes, but that's a fault of your firmware and hardware. Very common 
failure; many houses in Spain discovered that as well. The system just 
needs to disconnect from mains and go solo. It is possible and has an 
extra price.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 22:41 +1000
  Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:41 +0200
    Re: Real-time OSs (Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-08 00:00 +1000
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            Re: Batteries and mains, going solo. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:49 -0400
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