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Re: LED lights

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: LED lights
Date 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
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On 2025-11-02 20:42, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 15:48:38 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Our butane bottles have 13 Kg of gas.
>> <https://share.google/images/N6SlW49RFMPReaJMz>
>> The price of this variety of bottles is regulated by the government.
>> There are lighter bottles in the free market, more expensive.

There is some weird regulation that says that iron bottles of more than 
12 kilograms of gas have the price regulated by the government. They are 
"ancient" design iron bottles.

Instead, modern design steel bottles (with the same fast coupler to the 
hose), or bottles of 10 Kg or 5 or 1 or whatever are free market price. 
It is just some standard sized bottles, made of heavy iron, that are 
regulated and cheap.

We switch an empty bottle for a full bottle, we don't refill them. And 
we have a fast coupler for the hose, basically "click" and go.

<https://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/conjunto-regulador-para-gas-mercatools-tubo-1-5-abrazadera-16547734.html>

> 
> Okay. It's a completely different design but my 20 pound tank is the same
> idea. There are larger ones available but humping a 100 pound cylinder
> around is work. I used to be able to pick one up and head up a trail to a
> cabin but that was then.
> 
> I though you meant the 1 pound disposables.
> 
> https://www.target.com/p/coleman-2pk-propane-fuel-tank/-/A-12841958
> 
> Convenient, but expensive. They're $5 apiece. My bulk propane costs about
> $5 a gallon, a gallon of propane being about 4 pounds.
> 
> 
>> I have this heater, but the link might not work:
>> <https://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/estufa-de-gas-llama-azul-equation-
> eco-4-2-kw-82273485.html>
> 
> It didn't like my regular browser or Tor.  However searching on the
> product name came up with a link that did work. It certainly looks like
> the same URL to me.
> 
> https://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/estufa-de-gas-llama-azul-equation-
> eco-4-2-kw-82273485.html
> 

Yes. It has a working mechanical thermostat, that completely switches 
on/off the big flame except a small pilot, so that it keeps the room 
temperature almost constant. A very good machine.

All other makes keep the flame constantly on. Sometimes with 3 or four 
levels.

Another one I have, older, the thermostat switches between power 1 and 3 
(one burner, or 3 burners). The "1" level is too hot once the room is 
warm, so that gas is wasted. Still sold at the same site:

<https://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/estufa-de-gas-de-llama-azul-delonghi-vbf-4-2-kw-15971116.html> 
  DELONGHI VBF 4,2 kW

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:43 +0100
                Re: Punt guns. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:42 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:10 -0500
                Punt guns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
                Re: Punt guns Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800
                Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500
                Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:14 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:20 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:04 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:39 -0500
                Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
                Re: Bears c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500
                Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 03:57 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:01 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:33 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:40 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:46 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:40 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:48 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:07 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 19:15 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:23 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:13 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:17 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:21 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:29 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:13 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:19 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:16 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:10 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:17 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:26 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:10 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:15 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:15 +0000
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
                Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
            OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000

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