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Re: Flashlights

Date 2025-11-24 22:48 -0500
Subject Re: Flashlights
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On 11/24/25 18:04, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/24/25 11:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-11-24 03:58, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 11/23/25 16:09, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-11-23 07:42, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>    Film still has its place, but not EVERY place.
>>>>>    Medium/large format has an image quality/tone
>>>>>    I've yet to see with electronic systems. In a
>>>>>    sense it's the NON-linear quirks which contribute
>>>>>    to that as much as the higher 'pixel' count.
>>>>>
>>>>>    DO still miss Verichrome Pan wide-latitude film.
>>>>>    You could get a good shot of Granny sitting on
>>>>>    a bench in the shade and ALSO get good detail
>>>>>    in the bright-lit background.
>>>>
>>>> Film photography had problems with dust, that I do not see with 
>>>> digital. The paper copies would have several white dots.
> 
>      Yes those white dots on portraits were quite annoying so i learned 
> to do
> monochome retouching as a part of my hobby in my youth 50+ years ago.
> 
>      I had to give up silver photography as too expensive for my income
> in the 1970s.   Vexing but one must live paying bills and rent before one
> creates art.

   I had to give it up as "too complicated/messy" ... just
   don't have the time and patience and equipment anymore.

   But that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the qualities
   of film - esp medium/large format.

>>>    But the dust is part of the CHARM ! Adds 'reality',
>>>    that "human hands involved" aspect :-)
>>>
>>
>> heh, heh :-)
>>
>          Actually good darkrooms included dust precipitation
> mechanisms and tanks of chemicals with rigid temperature controls
> especially for color film though monochome was sensitive to the
> effects of temperature as well but much more easily achieved.

   Could never afford THAT good of a darkroom  :-)

   Anyway, IMHO, the tiny dust specks, if not TOO many,
   are "the flaw that creates the perfection".

   No, never took 'marketing' classes  :-)

   Best darkroom I ever saw was under the Smithsonian
   natural history museum. Huge, rigid controls, dust
   filters and proper vent, the whole thing. Next door
   there were large rooms where you could set up any
   kind of lighting arrangement you needed.

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                Re: Punt guns Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800
                Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500
                Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:14 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:20 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:04 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:39 -0500
                Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
                Re: Bears c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500
                Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 03:57 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:01 -0500
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:33 +0000
                Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:40 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:32 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:46 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:40 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:48 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:07 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 19:15 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:23 +0100
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:13 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:17 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:21 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:29 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:13 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:19 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:16 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:10 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:17 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:26 -0500
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:10 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:15 +0000
                Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:15 +0000
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
                Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
            OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000

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