Re: LED lights

Date	2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
Subject	Re: LED lights
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
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On 11/3/25 02:03, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-11-03, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/2/25 20:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-11-03 01:12, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-11-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:50:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>      But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON
>>>>>> MONOXIDE !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the portables have a low oxygen shutdown.
>>>>>
>>>>> The left loons started a campaign against gas ranges, all that pollution
>>>>> and CO. You absolutely cannot use them as a heat source.
>>>>
>>>> The provincial government here in B.C. is trying to completely
>>>> eliminate gas from all new construction (although there is pushback).
>>>> They want us to use electricity for everything, presumably so they
>>>> can sell the gas overseas.  Meanwhile, we're already becoming a
>>>> net importer of electricity, and between bitcoin factories and
>>>> electric cars I figure it's just a matter of time before the
>>>> brownouts start.
>>>
>>> It is easier to distribute electricity than gas, and then burn gas at
>>> the electricity generators instead.
>>
>>     Ah ... but if you're going to double or triple
>>     the electric consumption then you have to re-do
>>     the entire grid. NOT cheap, NOT quick.
> 
> Yes, the local grid is starting to feel the strain.  With 60-storey
> condo towers springing up like weeds (or better still, the faceless
> towers in the fantasy scenes in the movie _Brazil_), and each one
> needing a small substation to power it, I see various crunches
> happening soon.
> 
> Then there's the fact that electricity is more expensive than
> gas.  At least that's what we found when, due to re-modeling,
> we had to switch from a gas water heater to an electric one.
> Our electric bill went up more than our gas bill went down.

   If you need more current then you have to replace
   all the transmission wires - prob to neighborhood
   level - with larger wires. Huge expensive job. The
   other tact is to up the voltage, but then you have
   to replace all the transformers, maybe some of the
   pole insulators. Again ....

   Most infrastructure like this, somebody many decades
   back GUESSED what the future demand would be. If they
   were good engineers they then added a little extra
   room. However it seems many places have already
   exceeded those projected electric/water/sewer/etc
   guesses and new infrastructure is nightmare costly
   in materials, labor, permitting and just plain
   getting around all the stuff that was built-up in
   the interim period.

   So, replace most natural gas in the UK ? Sorry,
   you just WON'T get there from here.

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                Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
              OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000

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