Punt guns

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Punt guns
Date	2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
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On 2025-11-29 04:10, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/28/25 06:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/11/2025 10:20, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 11/28/25 04:12, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:58:59 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Hmm ... they USED to make something called a "drilling" ... like a
>>>>>     heavy rifle or shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel on top,
>>>>>     usually .22 ... good for big stuff and for rabbits roasting on the
>>>>>     campfire.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M30_Luftwaffe_Drilling
>>>>
>>>> Beats the hell out of the M6. Savage still makes a .22/.410 combo. I 
>>>> don't
>>>> know if .410 has become more available with the .410/.45LC 
>>>> revolvers. Like
>>>> 16 gauge it got scarce. My mother had a 16 ga. which was considered a
>>>> ladies shotgun in her day but now it's all 12 or 20.
>>>
>>>    .410 is a bit, well, small ... never was sure
>>>    what you'd use 'em for.
>>>
>> I have heard them called 'rook guns' - suitable for vermin really. 
>> Rabbits, squirrels, rats, smaller bids - probably could take a pigeon 
>> down.
> 
>    If you're CLOSE ... they just don't hold much shot.
>    I think the buckshot loads are like four or five
>    pellets in a row. Anyway, 'vermin gun' may be the
>    best description. You might be able to shoot 45LC
>    in some, but without rifling it's basically an
>    olde-tyme musket.
> 
>>>    20ga was more the "ladies gun". 16ga really
>>>    wasn't bad, nearly a 12 but a bit less kick.
>>>
>>>    These days alas, you'd be pressed to find 16ga
>>>    on any shelf, it just kind of faded away.
>>>
>> I never saw one. 20s and 12s yes.
>> 20 is a useable weapon for most birds
> 
>    Precise shots sometimes use 20ga just to prove
>    their skill.
> 
>>>    You CAN still buy 10ga ... but again you'd have
>>>    to special-order the shells.
>>>
>> not much need for anything larger than 12 in the UK, If you are going 
>> for deer you should be using a rifle
> 
>    Well, the 'punt gun' was invented in the UK as best
>    I remember ... about 4ga.
> 
>    10ga does have a place, esp in N.America, for longer-
>    range fowl hunting - boosts out a LOT of shot. Kicks
>    like a motherfucker though. Think there are still
>    three or four name makers of the 10ga. Hmm, maybe
>    that's the solution to polar bears ... a load of '0'
>    buck or a huge-ass slug.
> 
>> I believe there are a few punt guns around still though :-)
> 
>    Are those 'guns' ? More into 'small cannon' territory  :-)
> 
>    A bit 'unsporting' too ...
> 
>    From pix I've seen, they weren't even meant to be held,
>    had a sort of tang near the center point meant to be
>    hooked around the rim of a boat. You fired them from
>    a prone position.
> 
>    Shotgun bores are all basically the old musket bores
>    from longer back. I think 28ga was .50 cal, 12ga was
>    nominally the Brown Bess .75 cal.
> 
>    Wow ... forgot there was 28ga until just now ... maybe
>    a bit more useful than .410
> 
>    Try :
> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/shotguns/ 
> beretta-a400-upland-xtra-grain-walnut-28-gauge-3in-semi-automatic- 
> shotgun-28in/p/1777544
> 
> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/cz-628- 
> field-select-28-gauge-2-34in-blued-pump-shotgun-28in/p/1477236
> 
> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/mossberg- 
> silver-reserve-satin-black-walnut-28-gauge-2-34in-over-under- 
> shotgun-26in/p/1776160


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