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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-11-19, Rich wrote:
> 
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 02:52:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 19:02:36 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The real cops would be looking for fingerprints and not touch light
>>>>> switches in case there are some on the switch plate. Also for the sake
>>>>> of drama they may worry about some booby trap wired to the lights.
>>>> 
>>>> The thing with fiction is, only put in enough detail as you need for the
>>>> plot, and avoid superfluous stuff that detracts from that.
>>>> 
>>>> E.g. Chekhov’s gun: if it’s mentioned, then it’s going to be used later,
>>>> otherwise why bring it up?
>>>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20251011120122/https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/
>>> pmwiki.php/Main/ChekhovsGun>
>>> 
>>> Sometimes. I'm having a senior moment for the title but it was a cop show. 
>>> The season 1 finale was a cliffhanger where the bad guy tells the female 
>>> detective to run, as he sights in on her back and gets ready to pull the 
>>> trigger. He may or may not have shot his wife's dog the same way in an 
>>> earlier episode.
>>> 
>>> Canceled. Either the showrunner didn't see it coming or he decided fuck 
>>> them and not do a graceful ending.
>>
>> This is usually the fault of the "executives" rather than the 
>> showrunner.  The cliffhanger was written with the expectation there 
>> would be a "season X+1" and the cliff was meant to draw you back to the 
>> next season when it airs in the fall (or next year or whenever).
>>
>> But after season X has aired, and before production of season X+1 is to 
>> begin the "executives" start looking at the neilson ratings, and decide 
>> the show is not "profitable" to the level they expect, and they cancel 
>> "season X+1" without regards to the fact that season X ended on a cliff 
>> that now remains forever unresolved.
> 
> Even if you have a next season lined up, I'd say that's no excuse to
> give the cliffhanger treatment to your audience in a season finale.
> 
> Although I guess some cliffhangers might feel much more adequate than
> others in that spot.
> 
> (Now if you have some other reason, like a cast member being in doubt
> for the next season, well, it might not be adequate but still be better
> than they disappearing all of a sudden in the next episode with no prior
> explanation.)

Cliffhangers are due to the delusion that all of Hollywood seems to 
operate under that unless you are left wondering "what happens next" 
just at the start of the summer break that the result is you'll forget 
about the show when it returns next fall and not 'tune in' to watch it 
again.

And, the trope works to some extent, which is why nearly all shows pull 
it at the end of each season now.

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      Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
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          Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
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