Re: Accents.

From	Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Accents.
Date	2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 23:36:01 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-10-30 23:20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Any language that has been in used in an area for centuries (like
>> Spanish) and was also spread around via a worlwide empire at one stage
>> (like Spanish) is bound to develop regional variations though, isn’t
>> it.
> 
> Certainly. But the actors I did not understand were from Spain and the 
> action was taking place in Spain.

I’m sure there are some quite wide regional variations within there, like 
in English in the UK. There is a saying: “A language is a dialect with an 
army”. Scots (lowland Scots, à la Robbie Burns, not highland Gaelic) would 
have been an entirely separate language from English, if it were not for 
the Scottish king inheriting the English throne. How different is Catalan 
from Spanish? Are there other regional languages/dialects that are maybe 
almost as different? (And then there’s Basque ...)

Even within England, there can be wide variation. I remember watching a TV 
comedy/drama series called “Auf Wiedersehen, Pet”, back in the 1980s, 
during the time when Maggie Thatcher was 🇬🇧 Prime Minister, and whose 
policies had thrown large numbers of Brits out of work. The main 
characters were from around England, plus an Irishman (bricklayers, 
carpenters etc), who got work in West Germany, which was undergoing a 
construction boom at the time. And they had all their different styles of 
regional speech.

Three of them were from north-east England, around Newcastle, aka 
“Geordies”. The first episode, I had to strain to make sense of what they 
were saying -- it was an accent I had never heard before. After that, it 
got a bit easier ...

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                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000

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