Re: The "Standards" Game

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: The "Standards" Game
Date	2025-09-15 20:09 +0200
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On 2025-09-15 15:34, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2025-09-14, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:
>>>
>>> 	Al Gore helped pass the bills that paid those academics and
>>> technologists who
>>> were developing the Arpanet that became the public Internet. With the
>>> addition of
>>
>> Al Gore was very much a 'Johnny Come Lately' with respect to the Internet.
>> The Internet was up and running almost 20 years befoire Gore came on to the
>> scene.
>> Even in a quiet backwater like Australia, I was using the (non-WWW) internet
>> about a decade before Gore became 'famous for the Internet'.
> 
> I am still amazed that people do not understand why Al Gore was
> important to "the commercial Internet as we know it".
> 
> Yes, the technology was around long before Al Gore knew about it. The
> forst ARPAnet links come up around 1969. The physicists I worked with in
> Copenhagen from 1970 to 1975 excitedly showed me a Scientific American
> article about it around 1971. When I went to California in 1980, I
> worked for  company that made IMP attachments for IBM 360s and PDP-11s.
> Our small business got a connection in 1982, from our 11/70 running Unix
> v7 to El Segundo AFB in Los Angeles, using a Unibus VDH interface that
> we had been selling to the government and universities for a couple of
> years. Everyone that had access could see that this was going to change
> the world, but it was impossible to explain to those who had not
> experienced it. Nevertheless, it kept growing - doubling the number of
> hosts and users every year; still nobody wrote about it outside a very
> limited technical community. Computers were popping up everywhere, but
> AOL was NOT connected, and communications regulators and "telephone"
> companies were trying to sell everyone on the CCCITT/ISO communications
> standards. Even the US Defense department was building a new email
> system based on CCITT X.500, and the Aerospace and Auto industries were
> building their experimental factory automation networks on the ISO
> protocols.
> 
> At the same time, those in the business community that had caught the
> bug were stymied. It was illegal to use the Internet for business
> communication unrelated to defense contract administration and network
> research.
> 
> Around 1988, Al Gore saw the Internet and understood its transformative
> power, and as a Senator, he could do something about it. He wrote the
> Supercomputer Center bill in a way that envisioned a commercial backbone
> network, and instead of the NSF building and operating the network, the
> NSF would give the researchers grants to buy service from commercial
> networks. This took effect around 1992, and it was truly
> transformatkional.
> 
> But here is the twist: Al Gore's father, Albert Gore Senior, had held
> the same senate seat in the 1950s, and in that position, he drafted
> the law that created the Interstate and Defense Highway system.
> To get the press to pick up on the story of the Internet, someone
> described it as "the Information Superhighway".
> 
> When Bill Clinton ran for president, I had never heard of him. But when
> he picked Al Gore to be his running mate, I though "He must be really
> smart!"

It is curious, but in College I had networking, but tcp/ip was not 
included. Nor internet. This was 1990..92. I think it was mentioned, though.

Maybe three years later I attended a conference on some uni (another 
continent) where they talked about the importance of www.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-09-14 21:44 +1000
  Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-14 08:44 -0700
    Re: The "Standards" Game Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-14 22:46 +0000
      Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:02 +0000
        Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-14 21:14 -0400
      Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-15 13:34 +0000
        Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 20:09 +0200
        Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 18:56 +0000
          Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-15 15:50 -0400
            Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 03:35 +0000
              Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-09-16 21:04 +1000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 18:47 +0000
              Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 13:50 -0400
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 19:01 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 14:36 -0400
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 09:54 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 21:52 +0200
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 16:42 -0400
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 01:45 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:46 +0200
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 01:33 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 15:14 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 18:21 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:30 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 03:47 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 21:06 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:30 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:12 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 09:47 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:23 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:34 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:34 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:30 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 11:50 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:31 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-17 22:36 -0400
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 20:56 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:55 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 02:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 02:41 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 20:59 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:18 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:48 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 15:04 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 17:15 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:18 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 03:43 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:35 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 11:01 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 11:19 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 12:54 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 13:04 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 17:07 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 17:34 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:06 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-19 07:19 -0700
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 17:55 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 17:49 +0000
  Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-14 08:45 -0700
    Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 19:03 +0000
  Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 18:55 +0000

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