Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters

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From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject	Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters
Date	Wed, 13 May 2026 22:25:36 +0200
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On 2026-05-13 16:48, Rich wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-05-13 00:00, Rich wrote:
>>> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
>>
>>
>>> But the reality is that the increase was, even back in the days of an
>>> i386 at 33Mhz, only a few percentage points anyway.  And while 2%
>>> better performance at an i7's performance is more raw increase than 2%
>>> of an i386/33Mhz, it 'felt' like it was a bigger increase on the i386.
>>> The i7's are just so blindingly fast that the standard distro kernel
>>> and a custom built one just feel like they perform identically.
>>>
>>> And, in reality, for most of my system(s) uses, they sit waiting on me
>>> rather than the other way around.  And for when I do run something that
>>> takes more time than I want to wait, I just toss it in the background
>>> and go on about my business, the only actual noticable event being the
>>> fact that the cooling fan in the tower speeds up a bit as the CPU warms
>>> up from the load.
>>
>> If you do some task that is heavy on cpu, say, recoding a video with
>> ffmpeg, then it would be ffmpeg that would need rebuilding, not the
>> kernel. I can not think now of a task that puts the kernel CPU load at 100%.
> 
> Yes, apply the "careful optimizing" to the programs that actually
> benefit.  But, as pointed out by R.K., ffmpeg is one of the
> applications that compiles with the "include the various optimizations,
> select the appropriate code path at runtime based upon CPU executing
> the process" so it is already mostly ready to take advantage of what it
> finds in the CPU it is using at the time.  Meaning I can just let
> Slackware install the standard package and not feel any great need to
> "recomple" it to gain a noticable speedup.

Good to know.

> 
> The benefits of "custom optimized compiles for your specific setup",
> while still technically present, have narrowed vs.  the "generic distro
> version" that there is often not enough actual gain to be had to
> justify the effort of "recompiling a specific version" anymore.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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