Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters
Date	2026-05-13 14:48 +0000
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-05-13 00:00, Rich wrote:
>> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
> 
> 
>> But the reality is that the increase was, even back in the days of an
>> i386 at 33Mhz, only a few percentage points anyway.  And while 2%
>> better performance at an i7's performance is more raw increase than 2%
>> of an i386/33Mhz, it 'felt' like it was a bigger increase on the i386.
>> The i7's are just so blindingly fast that the standard distro kernel
>> and a custom built one just feel like they perform identically.
>> 
>> And, in reality, for most of my system(s) uses, they sit waiting on me
>> rather than the other way around.  And for when I do run something that
>> takes more time than I want to wait, I just toss it in the background
>> and go on about my business, the only actual noticable event being the
>> fact that the cooling fan in the tower speeds up a bit as the CPU warms
>> up from the load.
> 
> If you do some task that is heavy on cpu, say, recoding a video with 
> ffmpeg, then it would be ffmpeg that would need rebuilding, not the 
> kernel. I can not think now of a task that puts the kernel CPU load at 100%.

Yes, apply the "careful optimizing" to the programs that actually 
benefit.  But, as pointed out by R.K., ffmpeg is one of the 
applications that compiles with the "include the various optimizations, 
select the appropriate code path at runtime based upon CPU executing 
the process" so it is already mostly ready to take advantage of what it 
finds in the CPU it is using at the time.  Meaning I can just let 
Slackware install the standard package and not feel any great need to 
"recomple" it to gain a noticable speedup.

The benefits of "custom optimized compiles for your specific setup", 
while still technically present, have narrowed vs.  the "generic distro 
version" that there is often not enough actual gain to be had to 
justify the effort of "recompiling a specific version" anymore.

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  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:10 +0100
    Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-12 18:11 +0200
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:38 +0100
  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-11 20:12 +0100
    Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-11 22:47 +0000
      Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:42 -0400
        Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-12 13:52 +0000
          Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 17:49 +0100
            Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-12 22:00 +0000
              Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 04:47 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:43 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:40 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:41 +0000
              Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:56 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:56 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:52 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:24 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:34 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:48 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:25 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 20:51 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-14 10:00 +1000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:00 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:45 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 11:25 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 11:38 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:28 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:40 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 18:06 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 23:46 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 20:41 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:49 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-16 09:51 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-16 11:44 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 11:16 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-15 09:19 +1000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-15 12:23 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:42 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-14 01:12 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:09 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:54 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 17:52 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 22:50 +0200
          Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 18:55 +0200
          Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 22:19 +0000
            Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:56 +0000
              Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:45 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 18:50 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 19:09 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:34 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-13 21:34 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 19:06 +0000
  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-11 21:41 +0000
  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 14:59 -0700
  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:53 +0000
    Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 00:39 -0400
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 23:02 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 20:49 -0400
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    Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 01:26 -0400
  Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 21:04 +0000
    Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-16 00:37 +0000
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:35 +0200
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-16 19:41 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-16 18:40 +0000
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-16 20:37 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 23:07 +0200
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-16 22:33 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-17 01:11 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-17 00:39 -0400
      Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-16 18:39 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-16 22:10 +0200
          Re: The Stupidification of systemd Haters Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-17 04:21 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-16 19:37 +0000
        Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-17 13:37 +0100
          Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-05-17 17:22 +0000
    Re: The Stupidification of GNU/Linux Users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 00:48 +0000
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