Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters
Date	2026-05-13 14:56 +0000
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2026 13:52:51 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:
> 
>> I used to build my own kernels, but this was back in the days of systems
>> with 512MB of total RAM and i586 class CPU's running at 150-200Mhz. 
>> Back in those days it /felt/ like there was a speedup by building the
>> kernel against the specific CPU one had in one's box, and with the 512MB
>> RAM days, there *was* a benefit of stripping out drivers that one did
>> not use,
>> as a smaller kernel left more RAM available for one's applications.
> 
> It's been a long, long time but iirc you could also screw yourself royally 
> if you said 'I don't need that' for some obscure feature that you 
> definitely did need.

Been there, done that....

Was esp. troublesome when fixing the mistake involved waiting another 
hour plus for a kernel compile to complete.

The first time I made this mistake it also taught me to *never* 
overwrite my existing, working, lilo boot entry for the current kernel 
and instead to install the new kernel as a second entry first.  Then if 
the new kernel panicked because I forgot to turn something on, I had a 
way out other than "reinstall from 30+ floppy disks".

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    Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-11 22:47 +0000
      Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:42 -0400
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                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-15 09:19 +1000
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                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:42 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-14 01:12 +0000
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                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:54 +0200
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 17:52 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 22:50 +0200
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          Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 22:19 +0000
            Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:56 +0000
              Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:45 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 18:50 +0100
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-13 19:09 +0000
                Re: The Stupidification Of systemd Haters "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:34 +0200
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