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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: spreadsheet ergonomics
Date	2017-04-03 20:35 -0700
Message-ID	<D508628A.9C99C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/3/17, 7:39 PM, in article a8003gq.bay@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/3/17, 7:15 PM, in article lahuz003.8au33@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ... 
>>>>> You whined about dependencies.  Numbers is a dependency or the file
>>>>> is worthless.
>>>>> 
>>>> Um, what? 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps you do not understand the concept of dependencies?
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you don't.
>> 
>> Well, I am sure there are details I do not know... but with the file I am
>> speaking about you need either a modern web browser or the Numbers program.
> 
> Numbers requires a Mack.  So that's out.

Actually, nope: does not require a Mac at all.

But, sure, it is limited to what OSs you can use and that is a deal breaker
for many situations. No argument here. But also not on topic.

>> Nothing more (assuming you have those things actually running on your system
>> with all that they need!)
> 
> All you need with mine is an ssh client.

Which I have. So let's test yours!

>>>> I mean, sure, to use a program you need that program. To use sc you are
>>>> pointing to a bunch of other programs one may very well not even have (even
>>>> on Linux).
>>> 
>>> So nothing from a Linux repo qualifies as competition for a Mack app
>>> because installing it would install dependencies.  OK.
>> 
>> Not sure what word game you are trying to play. Can you get more specific?
> 
> Can you?  Why whine about dependencies unless they cannot be met?

The point had nothing to do with about them being able to be met. Why even
bring that up? It is about the end user having to set their system up to
meet them. Two completely different things.

Above you speak of Numbers needing macOS (which is not quite true but close
enough). Sure, that is a deal breaker for many situations. I openly admit to
the weaknesses of the solutions I talk about. I am honest.

One thing I find interesting about Linux "advocates" is how hard it is for
them to speak of the weaknesses of their solutions... even such obvious
things as lacking the ability to have multiple tables on one sheet in a way
pretty much any user can easily create.

>> And even with those other programs to tie into sc and support your scripts,
>> as far as I know nothing comes close to what I have shown you. Your solution
>> surely does not.
>> 
> 
> No looping updates required.
> https://vid.me/txC9
> 
The flickering of the "running external function" and other flashing
messages and the inability to directly manipulate the data would be annoying
for me, but if it works for you, great.

Care to show setting that up, from scratch, as I did with my multiple table
solution?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-01 23:34 -0700
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